2017 Grand Design Reflection Problems
Owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA, grouped by component
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What this page shows
Everything below is an owner-reported complaint submitted to NHTSA about the 2017 Grand Design Reflection, grouped by the component NHTSA recorded on the report. These are not confirmed defects, and they are not recalls. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a category with more reports in it is not evidence that a part is defective.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
Reports by component
Ranked by how many owner reports name each component category
- Brakes1862.1%
- Suspension517.2%
- Other / unspecified310.3%
- Body & structure13.4%
- Fuel system13.4%
- Tires & wheels13.4%
Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.
Each component in detail
What the reports in each category say, in the owners' own words
Brakes
Reports naming service brakes, the antilock braking system, brake hoses, master cylinders or the parking brake.
From owner reports, verbatim
INTERMITTENT BRAKES (LOST BRAKES) ON FIFTH WHEEL DUE TO THE USE OF UNDERSIZE WIRE AND OVERUSE OF SCOTCHLOK GUILLOTINE CONNECTORS. EACH BRAKE HAS A MAXIMUM CURRENT DRAW OF 4AMPS. 4X4 = 16 AMP POSSIBLE DRAW ON 14 AWG WIRE AT APPROXIMATELY 60+ FOOT LOOP ROUND TRIP FROM PIN BOX TO BRAKES BACK TO PIN BOX. THIS IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS SITUATION. THE BRAKE WIRING IS SUBSTANDARD IN EVERY CONCEIVABLE WAY. SHOULD BE AT LEAST CONNECTED 10AWG USING CRIMPED BUTT SPLICES AND CIRCLE CONNECTORS. IT WOULD ALSO HELP TO HAVE A GROUND BOND AT THE AXLE TO REDUCE THE LOOP BY 50%. SOMEDAY SOMEONE WILL DIE (PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY) BECAUSE OF CHEAP UNDERSIZED WIRE WITH CHEAP GUILLOTINE CONNECTORS EVERYWHERE. FOR LIGHTS OK FOR BRAKES? NEVER!*DT*JB
TWO SEPARATE ISSUES: 1. LIPPERT WHEEL BEARINGS LEAKED GREASE ALL OVER THE DRUM BRAKES WITH LESS THAN 4000 MILES. LIPPERT REFUSED TO PAY FOR REPAIRS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN ONE YEAR. 2. WITH BRAND NEW BRAKES PROPERLY ADJUSTED, BRAKES ARE STILL VERY WEAK. APPLYING 12 VOLTS FROM BRAKE CONTROLLER RESULTS IN MINIMAL BRAKING. SUSPECT UNDERSIZED FINAL WIRING TO BRAKES (20 GAUGE). BRAKES HAVE BEEN UNDERPERFORMING SINCE DAY 1. *DT*JB*DT*JB
Suspension
Reports naming suspension components — springs, struts, shocks, control arms and related hardware.
From owner reports, verbatim
Noticed the left side of the 5th wheel seemed lower, the smell of burning rubber was highly present. Upon further investigation noticed the front axle leaf spring had broken. Noticed the new tire was hot and rubbed up on and caused damage to the metal of the chassis and ruined the new tire.
I WAS DRIVING IN ARKANSAS IN OCTOBER 11TH 2019 WHEN I NOTICED THE RV DID NOT APPEAR TO BE TRACKING STRAIGHT BEHIND THE TRUCK. I PACKED UP AND LEFT THE CAMPGROUND ABOUT 2 HOURS EARLIER. THERE WERE NO ISSUES WITH THE AXLES AT THAT TIME. THERE WERE NO UNUSUAL ROAD HAZARDS OR SHOCKS TO THE FRAME DURING THAT PERIOD PRIOR TO WHEN I NOTICED THE ISSUE. I STOPPED AT A REST AREA IN HELENA ARKANSAS AND FOUND THE RIGHT REAR AXLE SPRING HANGER HAD BROKEN FROM THE FRAME. THE SPRING AND REAR AXLE WAS SHIFTED TO THE LEFT AND LODGED PRECARIOUSLY UP INSIDE THE FRAME. IT WAS LATE ON A FRIDAY EVENING. I WAS ABLE TO FIND A TRUCK/TRAILER SHOP OPEN IN BATESVILLE, MISSISSIPPI. I DROVE THERE FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS. THEY JUDGED THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO POOR WELDS. I'VE DONE SOME WELDING AND IT WAS EASY TO RECOGNIZE POOR PENETRATION. THE TRUCK SHOP WELDED THE HANGERS AND PULLED THE REAR AXLE AS CLOSE TO PROPER ALIGNMENT AS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER THE AXLE HAD SHIFTED SLIGHTLY IN THE U-BOLTS. THE U-BOLTS NEEDED TO BE CUT OFF, THE AXLE PROPERLY ALIGNED AND NEW U-BOLTS INSTALLED. THEY DID NOT STOCK THE BOLTS BUT THE TRAILER WAS SAFE TO TOW HOME. UPON RETURNING FROM THAT TRIP, I PUT THE TRAILER IN MY WAREHOUSE AND INSPECTED THE FRAME AND AXLES. I NOTICED IMMEDIATELY THE FRAME AT THE RIGHT REAR CORNER DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FAILED REAR AXLE SPRING HANGER HAD SEPARATED. THE EXTERIOR SHEET METAL IS WARPED AND THERE IS A VISIBLE GAP. THE FACTORY HAS REFUSED TO COVER THE AXLE REALIGNMENT OR RIGHT REAR FRAME SEPARATION UNDER THEIR 3-YEAR STRUCTURAL WARRANTY. MY RV HAS BEEN AT THE DEALER JUNE 5, 2020 UNTIL TODAY OCT 1 REGARDING THESE ISSUES AND AN UPPER DECK FRAME ISSUE THAT THEY FAILED TO REPAIR CORRECTLY 2 YEARS AGO.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Other / unspecified
Reports whose component NHTSA recorded as unknown, or that do not map to one of the categories above.
From owner reports, verbatim
TRAILER HAS LEAKING GREASE SEALS WHICH CONTAMINATED THE BRAKE SHOES. THIS IS A NEW TRAILER AND ARRIVED FROM DEALER IN THIS CONDITION. THIS IS A 2 AXLE TRAILER.
WITH LESS THAN 3000 MILES, THE WHEEL GREASE SEALS HAVE LEAKED CONTAMINATING THE TRAILER BRAKES. RESULTED IN REDUCED BRAKING ABILITY. POTENTIAL SAFETY PROBLEM REDUCING TRAILER BRAKES EFFECTIVE STOPPING POWER.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Body & structure
Reports naming the vehicle structure, frame, body panels, doors, hood and trim.
From owner reports, verbatim
I WAS DRIVING IN ARKANSAS IN OCTOBER 11TH 2019 WHEN I NOTICED THE RV DID NOT APPEAR TO BE TRACKING STRAIGHT BEHIND THE TRUCK. I PACKED UP AND LEFT THE CAMPGROUND ABOUT 2 HOURS EARLIER. THERE WERE NO ISSUES WITH THE AXLES AT THAT TIME. THERE WERE NO UNUSUAL ROAD HAZARDS OR SHOCKS TO THE FRAME DURING THAT PERIOD PRIOR TO WHEN I NOTICED THE ISSUE. I STOPPED AT A REST AREA IN HELENA ARKANSAS AND FOUND THE RIGHT REAR AXLE SPRING HANGER HAD BROKEN FROM THE FRAME. THE SPRING AND REAR AXLE WAS SHIFTED TO THE LEFT AND LODGED PRECARIOUSLY UP INSIDE THE FRAME. IT WAS LATE ON A FRIDAY EVENING. I WAS ABLE TO FIND A TRUCK/TRAILER SHOP OPEN IN BATESVILLE, MISSISSIPPI. I DROVE THERE FOR EMERGENCY REPAIRS. THEY JUDGED THE FAILURE WAS DUE TO POOR WELDS. I'VE DONE SOME WELDING AND IT WAS EASY TO RECOGNIZE POOR PENETRATION. THE TRUCK SHOP WELDED THE HANGERS AND PULLED THE REAR AXLE AS CLOSE TO PROPER ALIGNMENT AS POSSIBLE. HOWEVER THE AXLE HAD SHIFTED SLIGHTLY IN THE U-BOLTS. THE U-BOLTS NEEDED TO BE CUT OFF, THE AXLE PROPERLY ALIGNED AND NEW U-BOLTS INSTALLED. THEY DID NOT STOCK THE BOLTS BUT THE TRAILER WAS SAFE TO TOW HOME. UPON RETURNING FROM THAT TRIP, I PUT THE TRAILER IN MY WAREHOUSE AND INSPECTED THE FRAME AND AXLES. I NOTICED IMMEDIATELY THE FRAME AT THE RIGHT REAR CORNER DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FAILED REAR AXLE SPRING HANGER HAD SEPARATED. THE EXTERIOR SHEET METAL IS WARPED AND THERE IS A VISIBLE GAP. THE FACTORY HAS REFUSED TO COVER THE AXLE REALIGNMENT OR RIGHT REAR FRAME SEPARATION UNDER THEIR 3-YEAR STRUCTURAL WARRANTY. MY RV HAS BEEN AT THE DEALER JUNE 5, 2020 UNTIL TODAY OCT 1 REGARDING THESE ISSUES AND AN UPPER DECK FRAME ISSUE THAT THEY FAILED TO REPAIR CORRECTLY 2 YEARS AGO.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Fuel system
Reports naming fuel storage or delivery — tanks, pumps, lines, injectors and fuel leaks.
From owner reports, verbatim
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 GRAND DESIGN REFLECTION RV. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THERE WAS AN ABNORMAL PROPANE FUEL ODOR EMITTING FROM THE RV. THE RV WAS INSPECTED BY A SERVICE TECHNICIAN WHO STATED THAT THE FUEL LINE SHOWED EVIDENCE THAT A RODENT CHEWED THROUGH THE PROPANE FUEL LINE, WHICH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE RV WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 60.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Tires & wheels
Reports naming tires, wheels, hubs, or the tire-pressure monitoring system.
From owner reports, verbatim
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 GRAND DESIGN REFLECTION FIFTH WHEEL TRAILER EQUIPPED WITH WESTLAKE SUPER ST TIRES, SIZE: ST225/75/R15, DOT NUMBER: JULT1CM4016. THE CONTACT NOTICED A BULGE ON THE SIDEWALL OF THE FRONT PASSENGER TIRE UPON INSPECTION AT A REST STOP. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING UP A HILL AT 45 MPH, THE FRONT PASSENGER'S SIDE TIRE EXPERIENCED A BLOWOUT. THE CONTACT REPLACED THE WHEEL WITH THE SPARE TIRE ON THE TRAILER AND DROVE TO A TIRE SHOP. HE WAS INFORMED BY THE MECHANIC THAT THE BLOWOUT WAS CAUSED BY INTERNAL TREAD SEPARATION. THE TIRE WAS REPLACED AND THE FAILURE RECURRED ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE FRONT TIRE WHILE DRIVING 60 MPH. THE CONTACT PLACED THE SPARE TIRE ON THE TRAILER AND PURCHASED NEW SET OF TIRES. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED TO SUBMIT A CLAIM FOR REIMBURSEMENT. THE APPROXIMATE TIRE AND VEHICLE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 5,000.*DT*JB
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.
Elsewhere on this vehicle
Data sources
- NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation — owner-reported complaints and the components recorded on them
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