2004 Land Rover Discovery Ii

ON JUNE 16, 2005, THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION (PE05-034) TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED STOP LAMP (BRAKE) SWITCH FAILURES IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES.ON OCTOBER 14, 2005, THE INVESTIGATION WAS UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AND THE SCOPE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE CERTAIN MY 2002 THROUGH 2005 FREELANDER VEHICLES THAT USE A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR SELF-ADJUSTING STOP LAMP SWITCH FURNISHED BY THE SAME SUPPLIER, METHODE ELECTRONICS MALTA, LTD. (METHODE).IN SEPTEMBER 2003, METHODE MOVED THE PRODUCTION OF AN INTERNAL SWITCH COMPONENT, KNOWN AS THE SLIDER MECHANISM, FROM A VALIDATED PLASTIC INJECTION-MOLDING TOOL (?CAVITY 1?) TO ANOTHER TOOL (?CAVITY 2?) THAT HAD NOT BEEN USED BEFORE TO PRODUCE PARTS FOR LAND ROVER.SLIDERS FROM CAVITY 2 MAY BE CHARACTERIZED BY POOR FILL, LACK OF DEFINITION IN THE SLIDER TEETH AND DIMENSIONAL INSTABILITY.CONSEQUENTLY, THE SLIDER MAY BE UNABLE TO RESTRAIN IMPROPER MOVEMENT OF THE PLUNGER DURING NORMAL BRAKE PEDAL OPERATION.THIS MAY CAUSE THE SWITCH TO FALL OUT OF ADJUSTMENT, THUS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE EFFORT REQUIRED TO ENERGIZE THE SWITCH AND ILLUMINATE THE STOP LAMPS.?CAVITY 2? SWITCHES WERE INSTALLED IN APPROXIMATELY 8,763 DISCOVERY SUBJECT VEHICLES BUILT FROM DECEMBER 2003 THROUGH MAY 2004 AND APPROXIMATELY 3,915 FREELANDER SUBJECT VEHICLES BUILT FROM OCTOBER 2003 THROUGH MAY 2004.ADDITIONALLY, STOP LAMP SWITCHES IN CERTAIN MY 2002 THROUGH 2005 FREELANDER SUBJECT VEHICLES MAY SLIP OUT OF ADJUSTMENT AS A RESULT OF SWITCH DAMAGE DUE TO AN INCORRECT SETTING PROCEDURE DURING VEHICLE MANUFACTURE OR AS A RESULT OF SWITCH MOUNTING BRACKET FLEX.ANALYSIS OF ALL AVAILABLE DATA INDICATES THE PREDOMINANT FAILURE MODE IS CONSTANT STOP LAMP ILLUMINATION.OTHER REPORTED CONSEQUENCES OF STOP LAMP SWITCH MALADJUSTMENT INCLUDE INOPERATIVE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION GEAR SELECTOR/BRAKE PEDAL SHIFT INTERLOCK, INOPERATIVE SPEED (CRUISE) CONTROL, AND TELLTALE ILLUMINATION AS DESCRIBED IN TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN (TSB) NO. LT206-001 DATED OCTOBER 28, 2004 ISSUED BY THE MANUFACTURER TO LAND ROVER DEALERS IN THE UNITED KINGDOM (UK).TO DATE, ODI IS AWARE OF 77 NON-DUPLICATIVE COMPLAINTS THAT ALLEGE STOP LAMP SWITCH FAILURE ON THE SUBJECT VEHICLES (10 COMPLAINTS ON MY 2004 DISCOVERY, 45 ON MY 2002 FREELANDER, 19 ON MY 2003 FREELANDER, AND 3 ON MY 2004 FREELANDER VEHICLES).ADDITIONALLY, 4,595 DISCOVERY AND 13,370 FREELANDER SUBJECT VEHICLES HAVE EXPERIENCED ONE OR MORE WARRANTY CLAIMS TO REPLACE THE STOP LAMP SWITCH.OF THE 5,170 WARRANTY CLAIMS PAID TO REPLACE STOP LAMP SWITCHES ON DISCOVERY SUBJECT VEHICLES, APPROXIMATELY 31% OCCURRED BEFORE THE VEHICLE WAS SOLD NEW AND APPROXIMATELY 88% OCCURRED WITHIN THE FIRST 12 MONTHS OF VEHICLE SERVICE.THE WARRANTY TREND ON DISCOVERY SUBJECT VEHICLES IS IN DECLINE WITH 3,545 CLAIMS PAID IN CALENDAR YEAR (CY) 2004, 1,303 CLAIMS PAID IN CY 2005, AND 322 CLAIMS PAID IN CY 2006 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 28, 2006 (WHICH IS WHEN ODI LAST RECEIVED UPDATED WARRANTY CLAIMS DATA FROM LAND ROVER), AND IT APPEARS THAT THE ALLEGED DEFECT ON DISCOVER SUBJECT VEHICLES HAS BEEN REMEDIED THROUGH WARRANTY REPAIRS.HOWEVER, ODI ANALYSIS OF THE MANUFACTURER?S WARRANTY AND COMPLAINT RECORDS INDICATES THE FAILURE TREND ON CERTAIN FREELANDER SUBJECT VEHICLES IS ONGOING.BY LETTER DATED FEBRUARY 2, 2007, LAND ROVER HAS NOTIFIED ODI THAT IT WILL CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL (NHTSA RECALL NO. 07V-041) TO REPLACE DEFECTIVE STOP LAMP SWITCHES IN APPROXIMATELY 33,247 MY 2002 THROUGH 2005 FREELANDER VEHICLES BUILT AT THE SOLIHULL, UK ASSEMBLY PLANT FROM SEPTEMBER 5, 2001 THROUGH MAY 19, 2005. ALTHOUGH ODI HAS CONCERN

ON JUNE 16, 2005, THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) OPENED A PRELIMINARY EVALUATION TO INVESTIGATE ALLEGED STOP LAMP (BRAKE) SWITCH FAILURES IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II VEHICLES.ODI SENT A LETTER TO THE MANUFACTURER ON JUNE 24, 2005 REQUESTING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE AND OTHER LAND ROVER VEHICLES.ANALYSIS OF MANUFACTURER DATA SHOWS A HIGH FAILURE FREQUENCY FOR STOP LAMP SWITCHES ON SUBJECT VEHICLES MANUFACTURED FROM APPROXIMATELY DECEMBER 2, 2003 THROUGH MAY 13, 2004.ALL 8,763 SUBJECT VEHICLES BUILT DURING THIS PERIOD WERE EQUIPPED WITH A SELF-ADJUSTING STOP LAMP SWITCH SUPPLIED BY METHODE ELECTRONICS MALTA, LTD. (METHODE).IN SEPTEMBER 2003, METHODE MOVED THE PRODUCTION OF AN INTERNAL SWITCH COMPONENT, KNOWN AS THE SLIDER MECHANISM, FROM A VALIDATED PLASTIC INJECTION MOLDING TOOL (?CAVITY 1?) TO ANOTHER TOOL (?CAVITY 2?) THAT HAD NOT BEEN USED BEFORE TO PRODUCE PARTS FOR LAND ROVER.SLIDERS FROM CAVITY 2 MAY BE CHARACTERIZED BY POOR FILL AND LACK OF DEFINITION IN THE SLIDER TEETH.CONSEQUENTLY, THE SLIDER IS UNABLE TO RESTRAIN IMPROPER MOVEMENT OF THE PLUNGER DURING NORMAL BRAKE PEDAL OPERATION.THIS CAUSES THE SWITCH TO FALL OUT OF ADJUSTMENT, THUS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE EFFORT REQUIRED TO ENERGIZE THE SWITCH AND ILLUMINATE THE STOP LAMPS.THE MOST COMMON SYMPTOM DESCRIBED BY COMPLAINANTS AND DOCUMENTED IN WARRANTY CLAIM RECORDS IS STOP LAMPS THAT REMAIN CONSTANTLY ILLUMINATED.DOCUMENTS PROVIDED BY THE MANUFACTURER INDICATE THAT CERTAIN MY 2002 THROUGH 2005 LAND ROVER FREELANDER VEHICLES USE A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR STOP LAMP SWITCH THAT ALSO SUFFERS FROM A HIGH FAILURE FREQUENCY.THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS (EA05-016) TO FURTHER STUDY THE FREQUENCY, SCOPE AND SAFETY CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.

VEHICLE IN MOTION TRAVELING AT APPROX 5-7 MPH. ZIP CODE 06615 WHEN 3 ABS SENSOR LIGHTS WENT ON 1. HILL DESCENT 2. ABS 3.TRACTION CONTROL. RECENT ABS SHUTTLE SWITCH REPLACED FOR SAME REPORTED SENSOR LIGHTS FAILURE. VEHICLE WAS NOT ON AN INCLINE AND AT AN INTERSECTION AND LIGHT. AFTER PASSING INTERSECTION CARS WERE ENTERING STREET FROM SIDE. TRIED TO SLOW DOWN AS CAR PULLED OUT AND COULD NOT. ANOTHER CAR PULLED OUT.. TRIED TO MOVE AROUND CAR SINCE CAR WOULD NOT SLOW DOWN. UPON PUTTING MORE PRESSURE ANTI LOCK VIBRATION BEGAN AND CAR HAD SENSATION OF ' LOCKING UP ' ON A WHEEL AND FELT AS IF THE CAR WAS EITHER SLIDING OR 'NOT HAVING ANY BRAKE' CONTROL. AND STEERING SEEMED TO BE AFFECTED. HAD TO CROSS ONCOMING CAR LANE TO VEER AWAY FROM CARS PULLING INTO MY LINE AS CAR WAS NOT HANDLING PROPERLY. HAD TO GO OFF THE FAR LEFT SIDE OF ROAD ONTO SIDEWALK, GRASS OF A PRIVATE RESIDENCE LAWN AND WENT THROUGH A FENCE. WHEN I TOOK MY FOOT OFF THE BRAKE AND BEGAN TO BRAKE AGAIN THE SENSATION WAS AS IF PRESSURE WAS NOT PUMPED INTO BRAKE LINE AND WAS ABLE TO THEN STOP THE CAR. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I COULD NOT STOP THE VEHICLE FROM ANTILOCK FAILURE. THE FIRST TIME I THOUGHT IT WAS WEATHER RELATED ROAD CONDITIONS HOWEVER I WAS TRAVELING SLOWLY APPROACHING A RED LIGHT AND HAD TO GO THROUGH THE LIGHT BECAUSE CAR WOULD NOT STOP. THE CAR HAS SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE. FOUR OTHER CARS WERE AVOIDED AS I LOST CONTROL FAILURE OF BRAKES. WHEEL SENSOR SPEED AND STEERING. NO ONE INJURED. VEHICLE WAS ON MAIN STREET AT LUNCH TIME WHEN THERE WAS ACTIVITY ON MAIN STREET. 3 RECALLS FOR THIS MODEL ON RECORD. 1 RECALL FOR THIS CAR WAS DRIVE SHAFT RELATED FAILURE AND VIBRATION IN ADVANCE. I EXPERIENCED THIS AND THE DRIVE SHAFT DID BRAKEDOWN ON A SMALL ROAD CAUSING CAR TO GO OUT OF CONTROL. FIREMAN 1ST RESPONDER HELPED ME TO SAFETY. DRIVESHAFT RECALL FOR 2004 MODEL WAS IN 2012. POLICE REPORT: 16-10673.

NHTSA ID

10862762

Incident

May 2, 2016

Mileage

91,000 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE AT A STOP LIGHT, THE OIL PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR DIAGNOSIS WHERE IT WAS STATED THAT THE OIL PUMP NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED AND THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 70,000. *

NHTSA ID

10547929

Incident

Oct 1, 2013

Mileage

70,000 mi

DISCOVERY LAND ROVER DEFECT IN THE OIL PUMP, IT EXPLODED, HEARD A LOUD BANG AND IT DAMAGED ENGINE, THE CAR IS NOW JUNK AND I AM NOT BUYING ANOTHER EXPENSIVE PART FOR THIS VEHICLE. THERE ARE FORUMS ALL OVER THE INTERNET OF THIS HAPPENING TO MANY PEOPLE. HAD TO CAREFULLY PULL OVER ON THE HIGHWAY AT HIGH SPEED AS THIS COULD HAVE CAUSED AN ACCIDENT. *TR

NHTSA ID

10503831

Incident

Mar 15, 2013

Mileage

90,000 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE HAVING THE VEHICLE SERVICED BY A PRIVATE MECHANIC, IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THE FRAME WAS PERFORATED DUE TO RUST. THE CONTACT WAS ALSO INFORMED BY THE TECHNICIAN THAT THE VEHICLE WAS UNSAFE TO DRIVE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED ABOUT THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 178,000.

NHTSA ID

10493403

Incident

Jan 8, 2013

Mileage

178,000 mi

THIS VEHICLES HEADGASKET FAILED WHICH IS A COMMON PROBLEM WHICH WILL REQUIRE A COMPLETE OVERHAUL OF THE ENGINE. A NON DEALER PRICE IS $8900.00 TO REPAIR THE ENGINE. THIS HAPPENS FROM WHAT I AM TOLD AT 90K MILES PLUS. *TR

NHTSA ID

10449140

Incident

Feb 23, 2012

Mileage

91,205 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ABS MODULATOR VALVE COVER AND BOLTS WERE REPLACED TWICE AND HAD RECENTLY FAILED A THIRD TIME. THE CONTACT'S MECHANIC ADVISED THAT THERE WAS A RECALL FOR THE FAILURE UNDER NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 04V005000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC: ANTILOCK). THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 61,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 104,000.

NHTSA ID

10445202

Incident

Jan 23, 2012

Mileage

61,000 mi

ENGINE FAILURE OCCURRED AT 63,000 MILES. I WAS DRIVING LOCALLY NEAR MY HOME WHEN A POPPING SOUND CAME FROM THE ENGINE. IT RESULTED IN THE ENGINE LIGHT COMING ON AND THE ENGINE SHUTTING OFF AT APPROX 30MPH. THE ENGINE SHUT OFF LED TO A LOSS OF POWER STEERING IN THE TRUCK. LUCKILY, I WAS ABLE TO GAIN CONTROL OF THE STEERING MANUALLY AND PULL THE TRUCK TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. FORTUNATELY, I WAS NOT ON THE HIGHWAY WHEN THIS HAPPENED OTHERWISE IT MAY HAVE BEEN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OUTCOME. THE DEALER (LAND ROVER OF PARSIPPANY) EXAMINED THE VEHICLE AND DETERMINED THAT ENGINE (COMPLETE ENGINE FAILURE) HAD TO BE REPLACED. A NUMBER OF THEORIES WERE THROWN AROUND : LOW OIL (CHANGED EVERY 3,000), SLEEVES DROPPED (NO CLUE WHAT THAT MEANS), OR AGE (MY FAVORITE SINCE IT WAS 2004 AND I USED IT PURELY TO GO TO THE TRAIN AND ON WEEKENDS) BUT NO MATTER WHAT THE TRUCK IS TOTALLED W/O AN ENGINE. MY BIGGEST CONCERN AT THIS POINT IS THAT THIS ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT IS KNOWN BUT NOT BEING COMMUNICATED TO OTHER OWNERS. ENGINE FAILURE W/O POWER STEERING IS SIMPLY TROUBLING AND SCARY AT THE SAME TIME. IF YOU HAVE A DISCO THAT IS OF THE SAME AGE / MILEAGE PLEASE BRING IT INTO YOUR LOCAL DEALER FOR A DIAGNOSTIC SERVICE. TO THE NHTSA, PLEASE REVIEW THIS PROBLEM W/ LAND ROVER DISCOVERY II TO SE IF IT IS PERVASIVE OR IT IS JUST ME.

NHTSA ID

10394889

Incident

Mar 29, 2011

Mileage

63,118 mi

(1)INITIAL NEW POWER STEERING RACK/BOX LEAKED AND REPLACED WITH REFURBISHED STEERING BOX ON 12/15/2008, AUTO MILEAGE AT 26,916. THE NEW STEERING BOX WHICH CAME WITH THE NEW VEHICLE SHOULD NOT HAVE FAILED SO SOON AS WELL AS AT SUCH A LOW MILEAGE. (2)THE REFURBISHED STEERING BOX FAILED, LEAKED AND REPLACED AGAIN ON 4/5/2010 AT MILEAGE 34,142. (3) REPLACED REFURBISHED STEERING BOX FAILED, LEAKED AND REPLACED AGAIN ON 6/25/2010, MILEAGE 35,576. (4) AFTER A WEEK OF STEERING BOX LEAKAGE, FINALLY TOOK THE VEHICLE FOR SERVICE ON 10/29/2010, MILEAGE 37,605. REPLACED WITH A NEW (NOT REFURBISHED) STEERING BOX THIS TIME ON 11/15/2010. I HAVE REPLACED THE STEERING BOX 4 TIMES TOTAL TO DATE WITH LOW VEHICLE TOTAL MILEAGE OF 37,900. FOR SERVICE, I DRIVE 100 MILES EACH WAY AND WAIT FOR THE REPAIR TO BE DONE. THAT TAKES ALL DAY. I AM WAITING FOR THE NEW STEERING BOX TO FAIL AGAIN ANY TIME SOON.

NHTSA ID

10368949

Incident

Dec 15, 2008

Mileage

26,916 mi

Presentation from Dealer Shop Foreman Conference Call

"ISSUE: REPORTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED OF ENGINE DAMAGE OCCURRING, WHICH IS CAUSED BY THE USE OF NON-APPROVED ENGINE INDUCTION / FUEL INJECTION CLEANING EQUIPMENT OR MATERIALS. THIS INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, ""VACU-FLUSH"" TYPE EQUIPMENT. CAUSE: THE USE OF NON-APPROVED EQUIPMENT CAN CAUSE THE ENGINES TO HYDRO-LOCK, OR CAUSE OTHER ENGINE DAMAGE, AND SOMETIMES THE ONLY POSSIBLE REPAIR IS TO REPLACE THE ENGINE."

"ISSUE: THIS SSM HAS BEEN RELEASED TO ADDRESS THE HIGH NUMBER OF SPEAKER ASSEMBLIES RETURNED, MANY OF WHICH ARE DEEMED AS “NO FAULT FOUND”. CAUSE: INCORRECT DIAGNOSIS."

LAND ROVER: VEHICLES WERE MANUFACTURED FROM SPECIFICATION FOR REAR PROPSHAFT COUPLING, MUST NOT BE USED FOR REPAIR DUE TO BEING OUT OF SPECIFICATION. *PE

TROUBLESHOOTING ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)/HDC/TC WARNING LAMP ILLUMINATION. LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II. *TT

SHUTTLE VALVE SWITCH RELATED ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM /TRACTION CONTROL /HILL DESCENT CONTROL WARNING LAMP ILLUMINATION TROUBLESHOOTING. ALL LAND ROVER DISCOVERY SERIES II. *TT