2012 Newmar All Star Problems
Owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA, grouped by component
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What this page shows
Everything below is an owner-reported complaint submitted to NHTSA about the 2012 Newmar All Star, grouped by the component NHTSA recorded on the report. These are not confirmed defects, and they are not recalls. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a category with more reports in it is not evidence that a part is defective.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
Reports by component
Ranked by how many owner reports name each component category
- Engine1100.0%
Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.
Each component in detail
What the reports in each category say, in the owners' own words
Engine
Reports naming the engine itself — including stalling, misfires, oil consumption, cooling and internal engine components.
From owner reports, verbatim
THE SCR/DPF/DEF EMISSIONS CONTROL SYSTEM IS FAULTY AND RESULTS IN THE VEHICLE BECOMING UNDERIVABLE AT UNPREDICTABLE INSTANCES WHEN NO ACTUAL FAULT OR DEFICIENCY EXISTS. THIS MAY RESULT IN THE DRIVER BECOMING STRANDED IN AREA WITH NO CELL PHONE SIGNAL AND DURING TIMES OF HARSH WEATHER. IT MAY ALSO LEAVE MOTORISTS STRANDED IN UNSAFE LOCATIONS WITH INSUFFICIENT ROOM TO PARK SAFELY AND NO CAPABILITY TO MOVE TO A SAFE LOCATION. THIS IS A RESULT OF THE SYSTEM 'DE-RATING' DUE TO FAULTY SENSORS OR DEF DELIVERY SYSTEMS OR A VARIETY OF OTHER CAUSES. BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WILL DERATE THE ENGINE WHEN THE SENSORS INDICATE A LOW DEF CONDITION WHEN THE DEF TANK IS SUFFICIENTLY FULL, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE MOTORISTS TO PREDICT THESE FAILURES AND SUBSEQUENT STRANDINGS. IT IS ALSO WORTHY OF NOTE THAT IN THE CASE OF DIESEL MOTORHOMES, THESE ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL DRIVERS, THEY AR OFTEN OLDER, AND THEIR VEHICLES SERVE AS A CONVEYANCE OF BOTH THEIR PERSONAL POSSESSIONS AND VALUABLES.FURTHER THE OPERATIVE WORD IS IN MANY CASES 'HOMES' AND THESE MOTORISTS OFTEN HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO GO TO SEEK SHELTER. IT IS THEREFORE BOTH UNSAFE AND UNETHICAL TO FORCE SUCH SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON THE OWNERS OF DIESEL MOTORHOMES. THIS SEGMENT OF THE DIESEL VEHICLE DRIVING POPULATION IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM THE LIGHT TRUCK, SUV, BUS, AND BIG RIG DRIVING POPULATIONS FOR THE REASONS STATED ABOVE AND AS SUCH THE DERATING FUNCTION OF THE EMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM MUST BE DISABLED IN MOTORHOMES UNTIL THE ENGINEERING AND PROGRAMMING OF THESE SYSTEMS EVOLVES TO THE POINT OF REASONABLE RELIABILITY AND PREDICTABILITY-CONDITIONS WHICH CURRENTLY CLEARLY DO NOT EXIST. IN MY CASE I HAVE HAD FOUR INSTANCES IN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS DISABLING THE VEHICLE WHEN NO ACTUAL FAULT EXISTS, AND AFTER THE DEF HEADER WAS REPLACED WITH A CURRENT UNIT - GEN 6 OF THIS PART AND IT IS STILL UNRELIABLE. THIS IS AN ONGOING UNSAFE CONDITION.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.
Elsewhere on this vehicle
Data sources
- NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation — owner-reported complaints and the components recorded on them
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