WATER STARTED DRIPPING DOWN INTO THE GLOVEBOX, EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT GETS SOAKING WET AND THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTRICAL PANEL. *TR
- NHTSA ID
- 11326271
- Incident
- May 13, 2020
Owner-reported complaints naming the body or structure system, filed with NHTSA
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Reports naming the vehicle structure, frame, body panels, doors, hood and trim. Every record below is an owner-reported complaint about the 2008 Saturn Outlook submitted to NHTSA — not a confirmed defect, not a recall and not a manufacturer bulletin. 46 reports on file name it.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
The 25 most recent of 46, in the owner's own words
WATER STARTED DRIPPING DOWN INTO THE GLOVEBOX, EVERY TIME IT RAINS IT GETS SOAKING WET AND THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE ELECTRICAL PANEL. *TR
MY 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK XR LEAKS FROM THE ROOF/SUNROOF AND WHEN IT RAINS HARD IT HAS BOTH THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER SIDE GETS SOAKED AND DOWN BOTH SIDES OF THE TOP OF THE DOOR FRAME HEADLINER IS SOAKED AND ALSO MY FLOOR BOARD FROM BOTH PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDE ARE ALWAYS WET
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SUN ROOF LEAKED EACH TIME IT RAINED. THE WATER TRAVELED ACROSS THE TOP OF THE VEHICLE, ONTO THE WINDSHIELD, AND INTO THE DASHBOARD. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO STUTEVILLE CHEVROLET BUICK GMC OF PONCA CITY (3330 N 14TH ST, PONCA CITY, OK 74601, (580) 749-5976) WHERE THE BODY CONTROL WAS REPLACED; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDED A NEW BATTERY DUE TO THE WATER THAT WAS LEAKING ONTO THE BATTERY. THE BATTERY WAS REPLACED. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THE PPM CHIP FOR THE AIR BAG WAS MISSING, WHICH CAUSED THE AIR BAG WARNING INDICATOR TO ILLUMINATE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 14V118000 (AIR BAGS). THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WOULD LURCH FORWARD WHEN IN PARK OR DRIVE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE SAME DEALER, BUT WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURES. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 148,564.
TAKATA RECALL....WATER LEAKS INTO THE CAR BEHIND KICKER PANEL ON PASSENGER SIDE GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE FUSE/RELAY BOX. IT LEAKS IN ALL DOOR JAMS AND THE REAR LIFTGATE AREA. I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH MY CAR NOT SHIFTING. THROWING CODE P2723 WHICH IS TRANSMISSON PRESSURE CONTROL SHIFT SOLENOID E. I BELIEVE ITS DUE TO WATER GETTING INTO THE FUSE BOX BECAUSE THERE IS A CONSTANT DRAIN ON MY BATTERY AND WHEN TESTING THE FUSES WITH A TEST LIGHT NOT ALL OF THEM SEEM TO BE GETTING A GOOD CONNECTION DUE TO ALL THE CORROSION. ALSO SUNROOF LEAKS. ALL DOOR CIRCUITS GET WET. I HAVE TO DRY EVRYTHING OUT BEFORE I CAN START IT. THE CARPET SMELLS AND ITS FULL OF RUST. COMMON SENSE WOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS CANNOT BE GOOD FROM ANY ASPECT. IM TO THE POINT TO GOING UP TO GM AND MAKING THEM LOOK REALLY BAD BECAUSE THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I CANNOT BELIEVE WITH SO MANY COMMON PROBLEMS THERE IS YET TO BE A RECALL. I HATE GM AND NEVER WILL I EVER PURCHASE ANY GM PRODUCT NOR WILL I HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT GM. WHEN ALL THIS OCCURED MY CAR WAS OUTSIDE EITHER IN MY DRIVEWAY OR A PARKING LOT OR DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. I HAVR TO COVER THE CAR UP. THE ENTIRE CAR. I BOUGHT THE CAR SOMETIME LAST YEAR. I NOTICED THIS WAS HAPPENING ABOUT 4-5 MONTHS AFTER PURCHASE. IVE TRIED FIXING IT MYSELF AND I JUST FAIL EVERYTIME AND ITS RIDICULOUS.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WATER ENTERED THE VEHICLE FROM THE ROOF. ALSO, WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE CONTACT DETECTED THE SOUND OF WATER MOVING AROUND IN THE ROOF. THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE ENTIRE FRONT DRIVER SIDE AREA WAS WET. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO A DEALER OR INDEPENDENT MECHANIC FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING OR REPAIRS. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN.
UPON RAINING VERY HARD WATER LEAKS INTO THE CABIN OF THE SUV VIA BEHIND THE EMERGENCY BREAK,AIRBAG PORTS AND FROM UNDER THE GLOVE BOX ONTO THE FLOORBOARDS. MY VEHICLE STAYS ON WHEN THE KEY IS OUT OF THE IGNITION. THERE NEEDS TO BE A RECALL ON THIS ASAP. THE WATER LEAKS IN WHILE DRIVING IN THE RAIN AS WELL AS IF THE VEHICLE IS SITTING OUTSIDE WHILE ITS RAINING.
OH BOY...HERE GOES. I HAVE A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK FWD. FOR THE SECOND TIME IN A SPAN IF A FEW YEARS, WATER HAS LEAKED FROM THE SUNROOF AND INTO THE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS, FUSEBOXES, FLOORS, ETC. THIS IS THE INFAMOUS DRAINHOSE CLOGGING ISSUE THAT MANY MAY KNOW ABOUT. THE CAR NOW ONLY STARTS WHEN THE KEY IS REMOVED FROM THE IGNITION. THE STEERING WHEEL IS LOCKED BUT I CAN SHIFT GEARS AND MOVE THE CAR BACKWARD AND FORWARD. I'VE CLEANED UP THE WATER, GRIME AND LITTLE LARVAE GROWING FROM THE WATER INTRUSION. ALL ELECTRONICS WORK CORRECTLY (EVEN THE BUTT WARMER 😊) WHAT I'VE TRIED SO FAR: -REPLACED THE IGNITION SWITCH. -REPLACED THE BATTERY -CHECKED ALL OF THE FUSES OF THE UNDERHOOD FUSEBOXES -CHECKED SEVERAL FUSES OF THE UNDER DASH FUSEBOX -THREW A TEMPER TANTRUM -CUT MY FINGER TRYING TO GET TO IMPOSSIBLY PLACED SCREWS -CHECKED FOR RECALLS. GM STILL DOES NOT SUPPORT AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS ISSUE -PULLED THE CODES. THE RECENT ONES I'VE GOTTEN ARE: C0899, C0561, P0017, P0011 LAST TIME THIS HAPPENED, IT COST ME OVER $1500 TO REPLACE ALL OF THE FUSES/WIRING. I AM FRUSTRATED, YES. NO, I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FIX THIS YET AGAIN. BUT I AM MORE AMAZED AT HOW GM LEAVES THIS ISSUE WITH A TSB AND A GRAIN OF SALT, IN SPITE OF THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF THIS LONG OCCURRING PROBLEM. I AM LOOKING FOR ADVICE. MECHANICAL ADVICE. LEGAL ADVICE. MEDITATION TIPS. I'LL TAKE ANYTHING. "SALLY", AS THE FAMILY CALLS HER, IS HOW WE GET TO WORK, DRIVE THE KIDS TO SCHOOL, CHURCH, PLAYDATES, VISIT FAMILY, AND OTHER THINGS THAT FAMILIES HAVE TO DO AND LIKE TO DO. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM GM, TOO, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD MY BREATH. INSTEAD, YOU'LL FIND ME SOMEWHERE INSIDE, BENEATH, OR ON TOP OF SALLY. I'LL BE THE ONE COVERED IN GREASE, CONSTANTLY SIGHING AND WONDERING ABOUT ALL THE OTHERS WHO HAVE THIS SAME ISSUE.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. DURING RAINY WEATHER, WATER LEAKED INSIDE THE VEHICLE AROUND THE FLOORBOARD, DOME LIGHT, AND THE FUSE BOX. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE VIA EMAIL ([email protected]). THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 139,000.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. DURING RAINY WEATHER, WATER LEAKED INSIDE THE VEHICLE AROUND THE FLOOR BOARD AND DOME LIGHT. THE DEALER DIAGNOSED THAT THE DRAIN TUBE FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 95,000.
THE SUN ROOF IS DEFECTIVE CAUSING WATER TO ENTER INTO THE FRAME OF THE CAR AND CAUSING ELECTRICAL MALFUNCTION TO THE ELECTRICAL / PCM AS WELL HAS CAUSED NUMEROUS NOTIFICATIONS ON INSTRUMENT PANEL ALSO CAUSING INSTRUMENT PANEL TO NOT LIGHT UP WHILE DRIVING AT NIGHT WITH NO FUNCTIONS, TURNING OFF HEADLIGHTS AS WELL THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE VIA SATURN FORUMS AND YOUTUBE VIDEOS AS WELL AS TSB NUMBER OF 07-08-57-002F. I FEEL VERY UNSAFE DRIVING AND THIS IS MY ONLY VEHICLE. WHILE DRIVING YOU CAN HEAR WATER MOVING AROUND THROUGHOUT THE BODY OF THE CAR AND THERE IS ALSO WATER IN THE DOORS HAVE SHORTED OUT THE SPEAKERS THIS IS NOT NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR. MY CAR ALSO REMAINS ON WHEN THE KEY IS IN THE OFF POSITION. *TR
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. WHILE DRIVING AND ALSO WHILE IN PARK, THE LIFTGATE OPENED AND CLOSED INDEPENDENTLY. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE VEHICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED PER NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 15V415000 (STRUCTURE). THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 67,000.
MY 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK APPARENTLY HAS HAD A DEFECTED SUNROOF THAT GMC HAS BEEN TRACKING FOR YEARS NOW BUT HAS NOT INCORPORATED ANY RECALLS TO FIX IT. WE JUST MOVED FROM CA TO VA AND ARE JUST NOW EXPERIENCING ACTUAL RAINFALL THAT LEAKS THROUGH THE BODY OF THE VEHICLE AND INTO THE FLOOR OF THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER FLOORBOARD. I HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ANY ELECTRICAL ISSUES YET BUT I KNOW THEY ARE COMING. HOWEVER, WE ARE EXPERIENCING MILDEW AND MOLD SMELL IN THE CAR WHICH IS NOT GOOD TO BE INHALING FOR ANYONE IN MY FAMILY. MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS GMC DOING ABOUT THIS!!!
SPORADICALLY, WATER LEAKS FROM THE CEILING AIR VENTS/REAR VIEW CAMERA/ A-BRACES/ AIRBAG COVERS AND BASICALLY ANY OTHER PLACE WATER CAN COME OUT OF. I HAVE HAD IT TO THE GMC DEALER 2X TO LOOK FOR THE ISSUE BUT THEY CANNOT REPLICATE. IN VIEWING INFORMATION ONLINE (SPECIFICALLY EDMONDS.COM) IT APPEARS THAT THIS HAS BEEN A WELL KNOWN PROBLEM SINCE THE AUTO WAS MANUFACTURED - I AM JUST LUCKY THAT MINE HAS BEEN SPORADIC. IT HAS NOT EFFECTED COMPONENTS OF THE VEHICLE YET, BUT IF IT KEEPS HAPPENING I HAVE LITTLE DOUBT THAT THERE WILL BE ISSUES - PARTS CORRODING, ELECTRICAL ISSUES, ETC. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IT BAFFLES ME THAT THERE ARE 18 PAGES OF IDENTICAL COMPLAINTS, YET THE MANUFACTURER HAS NEVER BEEN MADE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT - AN IDIOT CAN TELL THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME MANUFACTURER DEFECT TO HAVE THAT # OF OCCURENCES. I REALLY DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING TO COME OF MY ISSUE, BUT WANTED TO DOCUMENT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN CASE THERE ARE MORE SERIOUS ISSUES LATER SUCH AS AN ACCIDENT CAUSED BY EQUIPMENT FAILURE DUE TO WATER DAMAGE - IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THIS DEFECT CAUSES SERIOUS HARM TO SOMEONE.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. ON A RAINY DAY, THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE REAR MOON ROOF AND THE FRONT SUN ROOF WERE LEAKING WATER. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE REAR SUN ROOF WAS DETACHED AND CAUSED WATER TO LEAK INTO THE VEHICLE. IN ADDITION, WATER WAS LEAKING FROM UNDER THE DASHBOARD TO THE FLOORMAT. THE AIR BAGS SENSOR WAS CORRODED DUE TO THE WATER LEAKAGE FROM THE ROOF. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 86,000.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. WHILE DRIVING IN THE RAIN, THE VEHICLE COLLECTED WATER WITHIN THE WEDGING OF THE SUN ROOF AND HEADLINER AND BEGAN LEAKING FROM ANY OPENING WITHIN THE VEHICLE (DOORS, VENTS, ETC). WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS PARKED AND/ OR STOPPED, THE VEHICLE BEGAN TO ACCUMULATE WATER ON THE FLOOR OF THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE IGNITION KEY WAS STUCK IN THE IGNITION SWITCH AND CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO STALL. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED NOR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURES. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 165,000.
MY CAR HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE PROP ROD RECOVERY SYSTEM. THE BACK HATCH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RAISE AND LOWER. IT HAS FALLEN ON ME WHEN I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CARRY IN GROCERIES AND IT ALMOST CAME DOWN ON MY GRANDSON'S HEAD WHEN HE WAS STANDING NEXT TO ME TO HELP CARRY IN THE GROCERIES. WHEN I READ AN ARTICLE IN THE BUSINESS SECTION OF OUR LOCAL PAPER ABOUT A RECALL ON 2007-2010 SATURN OUTLOOKS WITH THE SAME PROBLEM I ASSUMED MY CAR WAS RECALLED. AT MY LAST SERVICE AT THE GM DEALERSHIP I ASKED ABOUT THIS RECALL. THEY LOOKED IT UP AND SAID MINE WASN'T PART OF THE RECALL. THEY SAID IT WOULD COST $180-200 TO FIX IT. I CALLED THE SATURN CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE TO DOUBLE CHECK WHETHER MY CAR WAS ON THE LIST. I WAS ADVISED TO MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO NHTSA TO HOPEFULLY HAVE GM OR WHOMEVER TO EXTEND THE RECALL TO MY MODEL SINCE IT CLEARLY HAS THE SAME ISSUE. THANK YOU
CAR PARKED IN OWNER'S DRIVEWAY. ALL WINDOWS AND SUNROOF CLOSED. AFTER A HEAVY OVERNIGHT RAINSTORM, OWNER DROVE CAR DOWN DRIVEWAY AND HEARD A RUSH OF WATER TOWARD FRONT OF CAR. OWNER SAW WATER DRIPPING FROM UNDER GLOVE BOX COMPARTMENT, AND SUBSTANTIAL WATER ON PASSENGER SIDE FLOOR MAT. OWNER ABLE TO DRIVE TO WORK AND PARKED IN WORK PARKING RAMP. AFTER WORK, OWNER ATTEMPTED TO START CAR TO GO HOME, EXPERIENCED NO CRANK/ NO START. LIGHTS DID COME ON BUT KEY THEN STUCK IN IGNITION. CAR BATTERY EVENTUALLY DIED DUE TO INABILITY TO TURN OFF LIGHTS. COMPANY CALLED TO JUMP START CAR, COMPANY ATTACHED JUMPER CABLES AND LIGHTS CAME ON, VOLTAGE GOOD, CAR STILL NO CRANK NO START. CAR WAS TOWED TO DEALERSHIP. DEALERSHIP DIAGNOSIS WATER LEAKED FROM THE SUNROOF INTO THE FRONT OF CAR AND INTO THE FUSE BOX, REQUIRING A NEW FUSE BOX, ALL NEW TERMINALS AND NEW WIRING. COST FOR REPAIR ESTIMATE $800-$1000. CALLS TO CM/SATURN OFFERED NO ASSISTANCE WITH VEHICLE REPAIR OR COST ASSISTANCE AT ALL. THIS INCIDENT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS A KNOWN TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN BY GM #08-08-57-003F FLOOR WET UNDER CARPET/ENGINE CONTINUES TO RUN WITH KEY OFF/POSSIBLE NO CRANK/NO START/COMMUNICATION LOSS/VARIOUS ELECTRICAL CONCERNS (SEAL SEAM).
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SATURN OUTLOOK. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO UTILIZE THE AUTOMATIC LIFTGATE FEATURE ON THE VEHICLE, THE TRUNK WOULD FAIL TO REMAIN OPEN AND POTENTIALLY FALL ON THE HEAD OF THE WHOEVER IS ATTEMPTING TO LOAD OR UNLOAD THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE OCCURRED INTERMITTENTLY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 15V415000 (STRUCTURE) HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 95,000. ...UPDATED 02/03/16 *BF *TR
MY CAR WAS JUST PURCHASED 3 MONTHS AGO AND IT IS LEAKING WATER HEAVY INTO THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER COMPARTMENT FROM THE ROOF AREA INTO THE HEADLINER, A LOT OF SLOSHY WHILE DRIVING FROM ROOF AREA THE CARPET CREATING MOLD, BAD ODORS AND POSSIBLE ELECTRICAL ISSUE WITH WATER DRIPPING ON DEFROST BLOWER NEAR DRIVERS WHEEL WELL PRIOR CORROSION PRESENT THERE. *TR
WHILE TRAVELING ON THE INTERSTATE ON A RAINY DAY WITH THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS ON, WATER ENTERED THE VEHICLE FROM THE WINDSHIELD ON BOTH SIDES. WATER WAS ALSO DRIPPING FROM THE SIDE AIR BAG LOCATION. *TR
WATER LEAKS INTO MY VEHICLE FROM A VARIETY OF LOCATIONS. ONE THROUGH THE BACK-UP DISTANCE INDICATOR IN THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE, DOWN THE INSIDES OF THE DOOR PANELS ONTO THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER FLOOR, AND DOWN THE INSIDE OF THE WINDSHIELD. MY CAR STARTED NOT TURNING OFF WHEN I WOULD TURN THE IGNITION OFF WITH THE KEY AND PULL IT OUT. I BROUGHT IT TO A MECHANIC AND HE FIXED 5 LEAKS IN THE SUNROOF DRAINS. NOW MY BLOWER MOTOR WON'T WORK, BUT MY CAR DOES TURN OFF AGAIN WHEN I WANT IT TO. MECHANIC SAID I SHOULD BRING THE CAR BACK IN TO HAVE ALL THE CARPET/SEATS TAKEN OUT AND COMPLETELY DRIED OUT SO I DON'T GET MOLD UNDER THE CARPET, TOO. DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS FOR ALL THE FIXES FOR THIS VEHICLE AND THE ELECTRIC PROBLEMS, SO I'LL HAVE TO DO ONE AT A TIME. I LOVE THE VEHICLE, BUT IT'S A LOVE/HATE RELATIONSHIP. I THE LEAKS AND THE DAMAGE THE LEAKS CAUSED, SINCE THEY ARE KNOWN ISSUES, WERE COVERED UNDER SOME KIND OF A RECALL. *TR
THE PROBLEM STARTS WITH HEAVY RAIN LEAKING THROUGH THE SUN ROOF. ACCORDING TO THE ED MORSE DEALERSHIP REPRESENTATIVE, THE SUNROOF IS PROJECTED TO PASS SOME WATER (VERY FEW) THAT WILL DRAIN THROUGH THE DRAIN TUBES LOCATED AT THE FRONT AND REAR COLUMNS (SIDES OF THE WINDSHIELD). HOWEVER, THE TUBES MAY GET CLOGGED AN THE WATER STARTS LEAKING INSIDE THE CAR THROUGH THE COLUMNS WERE AIRBAG ARE LOCATED. NEVERTHELESS, THESE TUBES ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH TO DRIVE THE WATER UNTIL THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR SO THE WATER WILL LEAK INTO THE INNER FUSE BLOCK, WILL DAMP THE CARPETS ON THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDES AND MAKE MUCH MORE DAMAGE THAN YOU CAN BELIEVE. AS THE INSULATOR BETWEEN THE CARPET AND THE FLOOR IS LIKE A SPONGE, IT WILL ABSORB THE WATER AND SOAKS ALL THE CONNECTORS THAT RUN BELOW THE INSULATOR (CABLES THAT RUN FROM THE BATTERY, TO THE SEATS MOTORS AND HEATER, ETC, ETC). NOT TO MENTION THAT IT MAY DAMAGE THE AIRBAG TRIGGERS MECHANISMS LOCATED ON THE COLUMNS BESIDES THE WINDSHIELD?.BASED ON THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AT THE INTERNET, WHY NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING YET? WHAT IF THE FRONT SIDES AIRBAG DOES NOT DEPLOY AS EXPECTED DUE TO THIS RAIN INSIDE THE CAR????? NHTSA SHOULD SERIOUSLY INQUIRE GM FOR THAT AS IT MAY PUT MANY LIVES AT RISK. AND NOT ONLY TO SATURN OUTLOOK OWNERS. THE SAME IS HAPPENING TO GMC ACADIAS AND BUICK ENCLAVES....THERE ARE MANY FORUMS WITH SUCH COMPLAIN AT THE INTERNET AND IN ONE OF THEM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM GM ASK US TO CONTACT HER BUT I SENT HER 2 E-MAILS AND SO FAR I HAVE NO ANSWER. HER E-MAIL IS [XXX]. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR
I JUST LEFT MY 2008 OUTLOOK XR AT THE DEALER. ACCORDING TO THEM THE PROBLEM ARE THE TUBES THAT DRAIN THE WATER FROM THE SUNROOF. THESE TUBES RUN INSIDE THE FRONT AND REAR COLUMNS (ON THE SIDES THE WINDSHIELD IN THE FRONT AND THE SIDE COLUMNS ON THE BACK OF THE CAR). THESE TUBES ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH TO DRIVE THE WATER UNTIL THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR SO THE WATER WILL LEAK INTO THE INNER FUSE BLOCK, WILL DAMP THE CARPETS ON THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDES AND MAKE MUCH MORE DAMAGE THAN YOU CAN BELIEVE. AS THE INSULATOR BETWEEN THE CARPET AND THE FLOOR IS LIKE A SPONGE, IT WILL ABSORB THE WATER AND SOAKS ALL THE CONNECTORS THAT RUN BELOW THE INSULATOR (CABLES THAT RUN FROM THE BATTERY, TO THE SEATS MOTORS AND HEATER, ETC, ETC). NOT TO MENTION THAT IT MAY DAMAGE THE AIRBAG TRIGGERS MECHANISMS LOCATED ON THE COLUMNS BESIDES THE WINDSHIELD?.BASED ON THE NUMBER OF COMPLAINS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AT THE INTERNET, WHY NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING YET? WHAT IF THE FRONT SIDES AIRBAG DOES NOT DEPLOY AS EXPECTED DUE TO THIS RAIN INSIDE THE CAR????? NHTSA SHOULD SERIOUSLY INQUIRE GM FOR THAT AS IT MAY PUT MANY LIVES AT RISK. AND NOT ONLY TO SATURN OUTLOOK OWNERS. THE SAME IS HAPPENING TO GMC ACADIAS AND BUICK ENCLAVES.... *TR
AFTER THE VEHICLE SAT IN RAIN (SUN ROOF CLOSED OF COURSE), WATER WAS NOTICED RUNNING DOWN THE A PILLAR AND OUT THE SUNVISOR BRACKETS AND POOLING ON THE FLOOR. UPON INSPECTION, IT WAS NOTICED THAT WATER IS BUILDING UP IN THE SUNROOF BRACKET/FRAME AND OVERFLOWING INTO THE VEHICLE. IT'S LIKELY THE SUNROOF DRAIN CHANNELS ARE CLOGGED. *TR
2008 SATURN OUTLOOK XR. HAS BEEN IN THE SHOP SEVEN TIMES OVER THREE YEARS FOR WATER LEAK. HAVE HAD SUNROOF SERVICED MULTIPLE TIMES, LEAKING BODY SEAM ALONG FIREWALL SUPPOSEDLY REPAIRED, ELECTRICAL SHORT CIRCUIT REPAIRED DUE TO WATER, FRONT CARPETS REPLACED. THE CARPETS ARE STILL WET AND THE VEHICLE IS STILL LEAKING. *TR
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