1999 Subaru Forester Brakes Problems

WHY IS THE BRAKE LINE CORROSION RECALL WQK-47 ONLY FOR 2009-2013 FORESTERS? I OWN A 1999 FORESTER WHICH HAS JUST HAD A CATASTROPHIC BRAKE LINE FAILURE THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT IS DESCRIBED IN THE RECALL. CORROSION OF THE BRAKE LINES IS IN THE AREA OF THE JUNCTION BLOCK THAT IS LOCATED UNDER THE CAR BEHIND THE AREA OF THE PASSENGER SEAT. IT SEEMS THAT VEHICLE SAFETY SHOULD NOT BE DEPENDENT ON THE AGE OF THE VEHICLE, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS CRITICAL AS THE BRAKING SYSTEM. WHEN THE SYSTEM FAILED, THE BRAKE PEDAL BECAME VERY SOFT AND I COULD FEEL IT SINKING TOWARD THE FLOOR. PUMPING THE BRAKE PEDAL HELPED SOME, BUT IT WAS STILL SINKING UNCOMFORTABLY QUICKLY. I WAS LESS THAN A MILE FROM HOME AND WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT THERE SAFELY BY PUMPING THE BRAKE PEDAL. AFTER PARKING, THAT WAS A LARGE PUDDLE OF BRAKE FLUID IN THE AREA UNDER THE JUNCTION BLOCK. I AM RESEARCHING WHETHER MY LOCAL MECHANIC CAN FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY SUBARU IS NOT RESPONSIBLE WHEN THIS IS CLEARLY THE EXACT SAME PROBLEM DESCRIBED IN THE RECALL.

NHTSA ID

11230370

Incident

Jul 7, 2019

Mileage

80,000 mi

I HAVE A SUBURA 1999 FORESTER IT IS TELLING ME ON INTERNET THEIR IS A RECALL PART NEEDED FOR BRAKES SYSTEM. BUT MY DEALER SAYS THERE IS NOT. .ONLY FOR A DIFFERENT FORESTER. I THINK MY FORESTER SHOULD BE COVERED. IT IS A FORRESTER. I AM HAVING A BRAKE PROBLEM. THE INTERNET SAYS YES THE DEALER SAYS NO. *TR

NHTSA ID

10252297

Incident

Dec 19, 2008

Mileage

192 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1999 SUBARU FORESTER. WHILE DRIVING 40 MPH, THE CONTACT DEPRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL TO AVOID A DOG. THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT STOP AND CRASHED INTO A TELEPHONE POLE. THE POLICE ARRIVED AND FILED A REPORT. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A REPAIR SHOP. THE INSURANCE COMPANY INVESTIGATED THE FAILURE AND INFORMED HER THAT THIS WAS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE, RATHER THAN A SAFETY ISSUE. THE SUBARU MANUFACTURER STATED THAT HIS VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE RECALL NUMBER WAS UNKNOWN. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 100,000. UPDATED 03-25-08 *BF UPDATED 03/25/08 *TR

NHTSA ID

10217305

Incident

Jan 30, 2008

Mileage

100,000 mi

CONSUMER COMPLAINT CONCERNING 1999 FORESTER GAS MILEAGE. *TS THE CONSUMER STATED HE EXPERIENCED PROBLEMS WITH THE TRANSMISSION, BRAKES, A KNOCK SENSOR, A SQUEAK IN THE CARGO PANEL AND THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. *JB

NHTSA ID

10171181

Incident

Aug 7, 1999

UPON ENTERING THE HIGHWAY RAMP, BRAKES FAILED, PEDAL WAS PRESSED TO THE FLOOR RESULTING IN COLLISION WITH THE CAR IN FRONT, 2 PEOPLE WERE INJURED IN THE ACCIDENT. *JG

NHTSA ID

785776

Incident

Oct 1, 2001

AT SLOW SPEEDS OR WHEN COMING TO A STOP BRAKE PEDAL FEELS MUSHY, THEN, IT GOES TO THE FLOOR. THIS HAPPENS INTERMITTENTLY. VEHICLE NOT TAKEN TO DEALER YET.

NHTSA ID

898739

Incident

Nov 1, 2000

WHILE DRIVING ABOUT 50 MPH APPLIED BRAKE, BRAKING DISTANCE WAS NORMAL. BRAKE PEDAL STAYED ON FLOOR, HAD TO BE PULLED UP. DEALER COULD NOT FIND PROBLEM.*AK

NHTSA ID

893659

Incident

Jun 29, 2001

ALL WHEEL DRIVE REBULIT 2/00,AFTER COMPLAING TO SERVICE CENTER THE WHEELS FEEL AS IF THEY ARE NOT WORKING IN UNISON.YTHE CAR DOES THIS ON DRY ROAD (NOT A MUCH),ON WET ROADS MORE FREQUENTLY,IN SONW NOT AT ALL THE CAR DOES NOT RESPOND TO CHANGE IN ROAD CONDITIONS AND DOES NOT STOP IN NORMAL TIME,EVEN AFTER APPLYING BRAKES HARD.THE CAR DOES INTERMITTEN STOPPING BEFOREE IT CAME TO A FULL STOP.THIS HAAPENED IN 1/00 AND AGAIN 2/01.THE CAR IS PRESENTLY IN FOR REPAIRS,BUT I AM NOT CONFIDENT WITH THIS PROBLEM WILL NOT OCCUR AGAIN. I MAY NOT BE AS LUCKY IF IT OCCURS AGAIN.WHEN I FIRST INQUIRED IF ANY ONE ELSE HAS REPORTED DIFFICULTY WITH THE BRAKES RESPONDING 10/99 AND WAS TOLD NO.THEN WHEN THE CAR DID NOT REPOND TO STOPPING IN 1/00 I WAS TOLD IT WAS THE ANTILOCKING BRAKES WORKING BECAUE I WAS ON SNO,BUT WHEN THE CAR SLIPPED DOWN AND COULD NOT MAKE IT UP A SMALL INCLINE THEY TOLD " I FIND THAT HAD TO BELEIVE.THAT WAS WHEN I TOOK THE CAR IN AND IT WAS FOUND THE VEHICLE HAD NO ALL WHEEL DIRVE.I TOOK THE VEHICLE IN AGAIN FOR THEM TO CHECK THE BRAKES AND WAS TOLD THEY WORKED FINE ACCORDING TO THE SPECIFICATION FOR THIS VEHICLE.THIS CAR IS STATED TO HAVE ALL WHEEL DRIVE ALL THE TIME THIS IS NOT TRUE. I HAVE EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS AS TO MY SAFETY WHICH HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY.I DID COMPLAIN AGAIN AND THEY CHECK THE CAR IN 3/01 AND TOLD ME THE TIRE PRESSURE IN THE REAR WAS LOW,BUT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN I HAVE MY TIRE ROTATED AND CHECK BY SEARS EVERY 6000 MILE AND I CHECK THE TIRES MYSELF BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE RIDE & MILAGE.WHEN MY HUSBAND WAS TAKING THE CAR TO HAVE THE BRAKES CHANGED THE OIL TEMP LIGHT STARTED TO FALSH WHICH INDICATRES THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSMISSION.THE DIAGNOSTIC READ CODE;38 TORQUE CONTROL SINGNAL; THE SERVICE TECH THEN PERFORMED TRAN SERVICE,PUT 4 QUARTS OF TRANMISSION FLUID IN THE CAR AND REPLACED THE GASKET(CHARGING ME FOR THIS). I CALLED THEM BACK TO INQUIRE WHY THIS WAS DONE WHEN I HAD THIS SAME SERVICE PERFORMED WHEN THEY DID THIS.

NHTSA ID

744488

Incident

Feb 29, 2000

BRAKE PEDAL WAS GOING TO FLOOR ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, USED TOE OF SHOE TO LIFT PEDAL BACK UP BEFORE VEHICLE WOULD STOP. THIS WAS A MOMENTARY INCIDENT. DEALER NOTIFIED, AND WAS UNABLE TO DUPLICATE PROBLEM. *AK *SLC

NHTSA ID

883082

Incident

Mar 2, 2001

WHEN BRAKES ARE APPLIED THE VEHICLE UNDER MANY CONDITIONS WILL TEND TO ACCELERATE, THIS ALSO HAPPENS ON A 2001 VERSION OF THE SABRU FORESTER S WE ALSO HAVE. THE DEALER HAS NO EXPLAINATION

NHTSA ID

741340

Incident

Apr 1, 1999

OWNER RECEIVED RECALL NOTIFICATION (99V-040), HOWEVER DEALERSHIP REFUSED REPAIR, DEALERSHIP NOT INFORMED. *MJS

NHTSA ID

552665

Incident

May 20, 2000

DRIVING ON FAST DOWNHILL SECTION OF MOUNTAIN 2 LANE HIGHWAY, ON ICE / PACKED SNOW, TAPPED BRAKES WHILE ENTERING CURVE ... 2 SECONDS LATER WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARNING THE VEHICLE LOST ADHESION, OVERSTEERING DANGEROUSLY. I RECOVERED WITH CONSIDERABLE OPPPOSITE STEERING LOCK AND SLIGHT APPLICATION OF POWER (CAR IS ALL-WHEEL-DRIVE.) IT HAPPENED SO FAST, I KNEW NOT WHAT HAD CAUSED THE CAR TO SLIDE OUT OF CONTROL. TODAY, I LEARNED THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. WITH THE GEARSHIFT SELECTOR IN DRIVE, TRAILING THROTTLE AND APPLICATION OF BRAKES, THE COMPUTER WILL OCCASIONALLY (AUTOMATICALLY) DOWN-SHIFT THE CAR INTO 3RD. GEAR. THIS SOFTWARE BUG, COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED AND TOTALLY DANGEROUS IN MARGINAL TRACTION CONDITIONS CAUSEDG A VICIOUS SKID FROM WHICH MOST DRIVERS OF AVERAGE EXPERIENCE WOULD HAVE NOT RECOVERED. WE PUT ABS ON CARS SO THAT BRAKING CAN BE MORE PREDICTABLE WHEN DRIVING UNDER MARGINAL COEFFICIENTS, THAN WE DESIGN SOFTWARE WITH A BUG WHICH HAS THE POTENTIAL TO THROW THE CAR TOTALLY AND UNPREDICTABLY OUT OF CONTROL ON ICE. NICE WORK, SUBARU !*AK

NHTSA ID

723298

Incident

Feb 15, 2000

BRAKES WENT MUSHY AND GRADUALLY WENT TO FLOOR BOARD. WORKED OK WHEN PUMPED

NHTSA ID

715640

Incident

Nov 2, 1999

BRAKES FAILED TO STOP THE VEHICLE, AND THE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR WHEN DRIVER SLAMMED THE BRAKE. YH

NHTSA ID

548987

I HAVE DETECTED THAT WITHIN THE SPEED RANGE OF 5 MILES PER HOUR UP TO 70 MILES PER HOUR, THE BRAKE ROTORS (FRONT AND BACK) CAUSE A PREMATURE VIBRATION WHEN BRAKING WITH REASONABLE FORCE ON BRAKE PEDAL FROM THESE SPEEDS. THIS VIBRATION IS SUSPECTED TO BE CAUSING IRREGULAR WEAR ON ALL FOUR TIRES, AND WILL WEAR VITAL SUSPENTION AND BRAKING COMPONENTS PREMATURELY, CAUSING A POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARD.

NHTSA ID

713007

Incident

Aug 15, 1999

WHILE DRIVING DURING WARM WEATHER APPLIED BRAKES, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. THEY HAD TO BE PUMPED TO GET A RESPONSE. PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR UNTIL THE THIRD PUMP. THERE IS A RECALL FOR ABS BRAKING SYSTEM FAILURE IN COLD WEATHER. THE DEALER HAS BEEN CONTACTED. *AK

NHTSA ID

847476

WHEN APPLYING THE BRAKES, PEDAL GOES 3/4 OF THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. BRAKES GET LOWER IN COLD WEATHER. DEALER SAYS IT'S NORMAL AND THERE IS NO WAY TO ADJUST PEDAL HEIGHT DUE TO FOUR WHEEL DISC BRAKES. *AK

NHTSA ID

842573

DESIGN OF THE THROTTLE/PEDALS CREATES DIFFICULTY IN HAVING A SMOOTH ACCELERATION, PLACEMENT OF THE PEDALS ALSO CREATE A POTENTIAL HAZARD WITH THE ABILITY TO ACCIDENTALLY ENGAGE ACCELERATOR AND BRAKE. MJS

NHTSA ID

547267

NEW VEHICLE BECAME UNCONTROLLABLE, VEERING FROM SIDE TO SIDE, THEN GOING OFF THE ROAD, WITHIN FIRST 7 MILES OF DRIVING AT 60 MPH. *** 7 PURCHASED A NEW SUBARU FORESTER L ON JUNE 24, 1999, AND DROVE 200 MILES IN CITY AND SUBURBAN TRAFFIC, MAXIMUM SPEED 55 MPH. *** 7 LEFT ROCHESTER FOR FAMILY VACATION ON JULY 2, 1999, TRAVELLING EAST ON I-90. THE CAR CONTAINED TWO ADULTS AND TWO CHILDREN. DRIVER AND PASSENGERS WERE WEARING SEATBELTS AND ALL LUGGAGE WAS IN THE LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT. THE WEATHER WAS HOT AND THE ROADS WERE DRY. *** 7 NEAR MILEPOST 343, BETWEEN 10:30 AND 10:45 A.M., WHILE DRIVING AT 60 MPH, A NORMAL STEERING CORRECTION LED TO A SHARP VEER BY THE VEHICLE, FOLLOWED BY 4 OR 5 UNCONTROLLABLE SIDE-TO-SIDE OSCILLATIONS, EACH INCREASING IN MAGNITUDE. THE DRIVER HAD THE SENSE THAT THE WHEELS WERE NOT RESPONDING TO HER CONSCIOUS ATTEMPTS TO BRING THE STEERING UNDER CONTROL. SHE HAD HER FOOT OFF THE ACCELERATOR AND WAS NOT BRAKING. THIS OCCURRED WITHIN 7 MILES OF THE FIRST TIME THE VEHICLE WAS TRAVELING MORE THAN 55 MPH. *** 7 THE CAR WENT OFF THE ROAD TO THE RIGHT, DOWN A BANK INTO A DITCH CONTAINING MUD, WATER, AND VEGETATION. IT HIT THE DITCH AT AN ANGLE, BOUNCED, AND CAME TO A STOP IN THE GRASS ON THE OTHER SIDE. *** 7 DURING THESE EVENTS THERE WAS NO SOUND FROM THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM AND THE CAR WAS NOT SKIDDING, BUT TIRE TRACKS WERE VISIBLE ON BOTH THE PAVED AND GRAVEL SHOULDERS WHERE THE CAR LEFT THE ROAD. *** 7 WE HAD NO PHONE AND THE CAR WAS OPERABLE, SO WE DROVE IT SLOWLY THROUGH MOWED GRASS UNTIL WE PASSED THE DITCH AND WERE ABLE TO PULL ONTO THE SHOULDER OF I-90. WE LEFT I-90 AT EXIT 43 (3 MILES) AND SLOWLY DROVE SEVERAL MILES ALONG ROUTE 96 TO VAN BORTEL SUBARU WHERE WE HAD PURCHASED THE CAR. *** 7 WE CALLED THE STATE POLICE AND INSURANCE COMPANY TO REPORT THE ACCIDENT. *** THE CHILD IN THE SEAT BEHIND THE DRIVER WAS TREATED IN HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM FOR ELBOW INJURY. *AK

NHTSA ID

708234

Incident

Jul 2, 1999