2008 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2 Problems
Owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA, grouped by component
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What this page shows
Everything below is an owner-reported complaint submitted to NHTSA about the 2008 Thomas Built Buses Saf-T-Liner C2, grouped by the component NHTSA recorded on the report. These are not confirmed defects, and they are not recalls. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a category with more reports in it is not evidence that a part is defective.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
Reports by component
Ranked by how many owner reports name each component category
- Brakes240.0%
- Interior & seats240.0%
- Body & structure120.0%
Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.
Each component in detail
What the reports in each category say, in the owners' own words
Brakes
Reports naming service brakes, the antilock braking system, brake hoses, master cylinders or the parking brake.
From owner reports, verbatim
AS THE BUS DRIVER PULLED INTO THE BUS GARAGE, HE NOTICED HIS BRAKE WARNING LIGHT ON. I CHECKED THE BRAKE FLUID AND FOUND IT LOW. I APPLIED CONSTANT PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL THEN INSPECTED THE BRAKE SYSTEM. THE BRAKE LINE RUNNING DOWN FROM THE MASTER CYLINDER INSIDE THE FRAME RAIL WAS LEAKING. THIS LINE HAD A HOLE RUBBED IN IT BY THE FUEL LINE COMING FROM THE WATER SEPARATOR. THE FUEL LINE WAS ROUTED ACROSS THE TOP OF THE BRAKE LINE ALLOWING IT TO RUB. AFTER REPAIRING THIS BUS I INSPECTED OUR THREE OTHER C2'S WITH THE SAME CAT ENGINE COMBINATION AND FOUND THE FUEL LINE LAYING ON THE BRAKE LINE IN THE SAME LOCATION. NO CHAFING WAS FOUND ON THESE BUSES. I TIGHTENED THE FITTING ON THE WATER SEPARATOR TO RELOCATE THE FUEL LINE AND USED A WIRE TIE TO SUPPORT IT OFF THE BRAKE LINES. THANKFULLY THIS WAS CAUGHT IN THE BUS GARAGE AND NOT ON A ROUTE WITH STUDENTS ON BOARD. *TR
BUS BRAKE INTERLOCK WILL NOT RELEASE, MUST BYPASS BRAKE SWITCH TO MOVE BUS FROM ROADWAY AFTER STUDENT PICKUP. HAPPENS INTERMITTENTLY ,WITHOUT WARNING. HAVE TO REPLACE AMU BRAKE SWITCH BLOCK, PART #A12-19776-010-01. TO CORRECT. BUS ONLY HAS 21,485 MILES .HAVE 6 BUSES WITH SIMILAR MILEAGE, HAVE REPLACED 3 TO DATE. HAVE REPLACED WITH IDENTICAL PART AS ORIGINAL, FEEL PROBLEM WILL REOCCUR. HAVE TALKED TO OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH MULTIPLE PROBLEMS. IS VERY DANGEROUS DO TO LOCATION THAT PROBLEM COULD OCCUR SUCH AS BUSY TWO LANE HIGHWAY. *TR
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Interior & seats
Reports naming seats, latches, locks, linkages and interior fittings.
From owner reports, verbatim
THE CONTACT HAS A FLEET THAT INCLUDES 18 MY2000-2008 THOMAS SCHOOL BUSES. ALL HAVE EXHIBITED MULTIPLE FAILURES TO PASSENGER SEATBACKS; THE SEAT PAN BECOMES DETACHED FROM THE SEAT FRAME. THE CONTACT IS CONCERNED THAT A DAMAGED SEAT MAY NOT PERFORM ITS ROLE IN COMPARTMENTALIZATION AS INTENDED BY FMVSS 222. THE CONTACT FURTHER ALLEGED THAT SEATS WHICH HAVE RECEIVED THE REMEDY DESCRIBED IN THOMAS SERVICE BULLETIN 16A (SEATBACK PAN IS RIVETED TO SEAT FRAME) ARE NO LESS LIKELY TO FAIL AGAIN AND MANY OF THEM HAVE. OTHER NON-THOMAS SCHOOL BUSES IN HIS FLEET DO NOT EXPERIENCE THIS PROBLEM.
IN THE PROCESS OF REPLACING THE EMERGENCY EXIT DOORS ON THE 2007-2008 MODEL SAF-T-LINER C2 BUSES OWNED BY SC DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THE FLEET DISCOVERED CORROSION RELATED DEGRADATION OF SHAFT TO THE OUTSIDE DOOR HANDLE. IT IS BELIEVED THAT WATER IS GETTING PAST THE FOAM WASHER POSITIONED BETWEEN THE EXTERIOR HANDLE AND THE DOOR SKIN. THE CONTACT IS CONCERNED THAT DEGRADATION TO THE STRENGTH OF THE SHAFT COULD CAUSE IT TO FAIL IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY AND DELAY EVACUATION. UPDATED 02/17/12 *BF UPDATED 02/22/12
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Body & structure
Reports naming the vehicle structure, frame, body panels, doors, hood and trim.
From owner reports, verbatim
THERE IS A PLASTIC FITTING AT THE REAR HEATER THAT IS FAILING WHICH CAUSES HOT ANTI-FREEZE TO SPILL INTO THE PASSENGER AREA OF THE SCHOOL BUS. THIS HAS HAPPENED ON THREE BUSES IN THE PAST TWO WEEKS. HOT ANTI-FREEZE CAN CAUSE INJURY TO THE STUDENTS THAT ARE BEING TRANSPORTED.
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.
Elsewhere on this vehicle
Data sources
- NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation — owner-reported complaints and the components recorded on them
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