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2005 Blue Bird Wanderlodge M450 Lxi Owner Complaints

Reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers, shown in full

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Complaints on fileComplaints are reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a complaint does not establish that a defect exists. Volume is influenced by how many of a vehicle were sold, how long it has been on the road, and how much attention an issue has received.
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Latest Nov 20, 2009
Crash or fire reportedComplaints whose submitter recorded that a crash or a fire occurred. These are the reporter's own answers on the NHTSA form, not verified findings.
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Filed in the last 12 monthsReports filed with NHTSA in the trailing 365 days. Recent volume reflects attention and vehicle age as much as anything else.
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Reports on file since Nov 9, 2009

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Our database holds 2 NHTSA owner-reported complaints for the 2005 Blue Bird Wanderlodge M450 Lxi. Each one is a report filed by an owner or driver and published by NHTSA without most of them being verified. A complaint is not a confirmed defect, not a recall and not a manufacturer bulletin. Narratives are shown exactly as filed.

Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.

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ElectricalOther / unspecifiedPowertrain (other)
Filed Nov 20, 2009
Fire reported

PETITION FOR THE INCOMPLETE, UNSAFE REPAIRS AND MODIFICATION TO THE 2006 BLUE BIRD WANDERLODGE 450 LXI THAT ARE BEING DONE IN AN ATTEMPT TO REMEDY THE CONDITIONS FOR THE NHTSA RECALL. *NJ THE CONSUMER EXPERIENCED OTHER PROBLEMS WITH THE MOTOR HOME SUCH AS; A FIRE IN THE DASH, A BURNT INVERTER, UNSOLVED ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS, EXTENSIVE HADLEY SYSTEM PROBLEMS AND A SLIDE OUT PROBLEM. THE CONSUMER STATED THE NEW RESTRICTIONS BLUE BIRD WANTS TO PLACE ON ITS OWNERS WITH REGARDS TO WEIGHT IN BAYS TRAVELING WITH 1/4 WATER AND PASSENGERS RESTRICTIONS IS UNREASONABLE. THE CONSUMER STATED HE DID NOT BUY A MOTORHOME WITH RESTRICTIONS.

NHTSA ID
10293828
Incident
Jan 1, 1901
Body & structurePowertrain (other)Suspension
Filed Nov 9, 2009

THIS LETTER IS AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A FORMAL PETITION REGARDING THE INCOMPLETE, UNSAFE REPAIRS AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE 2005 TO 2007 BLUE BIRD WANDERLODGE 450 LXI THAT ARE BEING DONE IN AN ATTEMPT TO REMEDY THE CONDITIONS OF THE NHTSA RECALL. THE ORIGINAL RECALL, 07V586000, INDICATED THAT THE FRONT AXLE ON THE 450 LXI COULD BE OVERWEIGHT. BLUE BIRD STATED IN SUBSTANCE THAT ITS RV WAS OVERWEIGHT ON THE FRONT AXLE WITHOUT CARGO BUT WITH THE STANDARD 4 PASSENGERS AND FULL WATER (USING PRE-2008 DEFINITION OF CCC). THE TIRE SAFETY FACTOR WAS NOT AN ISSUE IN THE RECALL BUT SURFACED WITH THE LATER COMPLAINT. THE TIE ROD WEAKNESS WAS NOT A CAUSE OF THE RECALL BUT WAS A RESULT OF THE NEED TO INCREASE THE AXLE RATING. (I.E. IT WAS ONE OF THE REMEDIES). THE TIE RODS WERE SAFE AT AN AXLE LOAD OF 16,000 LBS AND NO TIE ROD RECALL WOULD HAVE OCCURRED IF THE 16,000 LB. AXLE WAS SUFFICIENT AS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. THE RECALL WAS BASED ON THE AXLE BEING IN EXCESS OF ITS RATING AND THE MOTORHOME COULD NOT BE SAFELY USED WITH REASONABLE LOADING AND DESIGNED PURPOSE OF THE VEHICLE. IN DOING THE MANY LEVELS OF 'FIXES', BLUE BIRD HAS FOUND IT NECESSARY TO REDUCE THE 'NO CARGO', WEIGHT OF THE MOTORHOME IN ORDER SHOW AN APPARENT DECREASED FRONT AXLE LOAD AND TO SHOW SOME CAPACITY IN THE STORAGE COMPARTMENTS. THE UNLOADED WEIGHT HAS BEEN REDUCED TO A NON-STANDARD, 2 PASSENGERS AND 1/4 TANK OF FRESH WATER. (RIVA) THE NEW BAY WEIGHT LIMIT PLACARDS ARE MISLEADING IN THAT THEY DO NOT REFLECT THE FACT THAT THEY REFER TO THE TOTAL WEIGHT IN THE ENTIRE BAY AREA, BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT SIDES AND IN THE VERTICAL AREA ABOVE THE BAY, IN THE COACH. OWNERS ARE NOT AWARE OF THIS AND MAINTAINING THESE LIMITS IS UNREASONABLE. THE LIMITS CAN BE EASILY OVERLOADED, EVEN BY PANTRY ITEMS ALONE. THE OVERLOADING OF THE FRONT TIRES IS ALSO A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE. ONE OF THE 'FIXES' WAS TO MODIFY THE HADLEY AIR SUSPENSION SYSTEM SO THAT IN DRIVE MODE. *TR

NHTSA ID
10291585
Incident
Sep 2, 2009
Mileage
35,000 mi

Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.

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