2002 Honda Odyssey Fuel system Problems

The contact owns a 2002 Honda Odyssey. The contact stated that the air bag warning light was illuminated along with a warning message which stated that the driver’s and passenger’s side air bags need to be repaired. The contact referenced NHTSA Campaign Number: 19V501000 (Air Bags) as the cause for the failure. The Vin was not included in the recall. The contact also stated that the manual transmission would jump out of gear and would not accelerate out of second gear until she manually shifted the vehicle to park and then back to drive. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic, where it was diagnosed with a fuel pump and fluids needing to be replaced. The contact stated that the failure recurred. The dealer and manufacturer were not made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 165,555.

NHTSA ID

11422689

Incident

May 28, 2021

Mileage

165,555 mi

06/04/2021 2002 Honda Odyssey - Aftermarket Fuel Pump Lock Ring - Multiple Failures Safety Issue = Gasoline leaking out of the tank onto the ground. Starting in 2019, three aftermarket fuel pump lock rings have failed on one 2002 Honda Odyssey. The lock rings were all made of plastic. The OEM Honda lock ring was also made of plastic and after 17 years did not fail, but was replaced when a new fuel pump was installed. A DELPHI model FG0956 fuel pump had two lock ring failures. The third lock ring failure was on a AIRTEX model E8642M fuel pump. The torque spec per Honda for the fuel pump lock ring is a hefty 69 FT LBS or 93 NM. An SK click type torque wrench model 73100 was used on the installs, as was a fuel tank lock ring tool LISLE model 63000. All the lock rings were at first hand tightened to prevent cross threading before using the torque wrench. The SK torque wrench used has never been known to over torque bolts. The third lock ring for AIRTEX was torqued to about 60 FT LBS due to the prior failures. No warning lights or messages appeared when the lock ring fails. All failed within one year of install. Failure detected by noticing the smell of gasoline, especially outside the vehicle and sometimes inside the vehicle. Each of the failed lock rings split, and then gasoline starts leaking out of the top of the tank at the fuel pump and onto the ground. The fuel pump will start to rise above the tank due to it being spring loaded and the lock ring failing. The problem is most noticeable after filling the fuel tank, and when the vehicle is exposed to high outside air temperatures. If you look under the vehicle, a puddle of gasoline on the ground is sometimes visible just below the fuel pump. If the failure is not yet severe enough, you will not see a puddle but may still smell gasoline. A local auto parts store recommended purchasing an OEM Honda lock ring due to the aftermarket failures and the hefty Honda torque spec of 69 FT LBS on a plastic ring.

NHTSA ID

11419723

Incident

Jun 4, 2021

AFTER SPENDING MONEY TO GET CAR FIX. FOUND OUT THERE ARE AT LEAST 60 RECALLS ON THIS VEHICLE. I ONLY GOTTEN 7 OR 8 RECALL LETTER FROM HONDA. ACCORD8NG TO THE MECHANIC FRIEND, I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A NEW CAR AFTER ALL THE REPAIRS FROM THE RECALL. CALL HONDA ON THIS AND THEY SAID IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE YOU TAKE THE CAR FOR RECALL REPAIR. WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MISSING RECALL LETTERS, EVEN IF I NEVER RECEIVE THEM

NHTSA ID

11297086

Incident

Jan 4, 2020

I HAVE HAD TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS AND FUEL PUMP PROBLEMS . HAD THE TRANSMISSION FIXED TWICE IN THIS VAN TWICE. AND NOW CAR IS JERKING AND MECHANICS SAY IT'S THE FUEL PUMPL I HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS WITH THIS VAN NOT OPERATING BEEN TAKING IT TO MECHANICS THEY TELL ME IT'S THE TRANSMISSION I GET A USED ONE PUT IN AND NOW VAN JERKS AND STALLS MECHANICS FIX SENSOR IT DOESN'T WORK CHANGE FUEL PUMP THIS VAN HA BEEN NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS AND AFTER RESEARCHING I FIND OUT THERE HAVE BEEN TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS WITH THESE CARS AND DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE HAS BEEN A RECALL ON THE TRANSMISSION BUT A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON 2002 ODYSSEY'S.I SPENT ALL KINDS OF MONEY ON TRYING TO GET THIS VAN FIXED. FOR THE LAST 7-8 MONTHS. I WAS DRIVING THE CAR STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS SO IT TOOK IT TO TWO MECHANICS THEY TOLD ME FIRST IT WAS THE TRANSMISSION I HAD A USED TRANSMISSION PUT IN THAT HAD 60;000 MILES ON IT THE SECOND INCIDENT DRIVING THE VAN ON HIGHWAY 60MPH THE CAR STARTED JERKING AND STALLING. FINALLY HAD THE CAR TOWED TO MECHANIC THEY COULDN'T FIX IT AND SENT IT TO A DEALER . THIS CAR HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS. APOX DATE STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS JULY 2017

NHTSA ID

11078718

Incident

Jul 1, 2017

Mileage

60,000 mi

TAKATA RECALLOPERATORBID,0555212,SEQ#74,MICROFILM#0107080988,MULTIPLEWRECKS,10,000LBSAMUNITIONS,FAMILYINJUREDINWRECK,DOMICILE#6001EXEMPTODOMETER,MENTALLYSTRESS

NHTSA ID

10915683

Incident

Oct 5, 2016

Mileage

200,000 mi

THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION OCCASIONALLY DISENGAGES BETWEEN 30MPH TO 40MPH. SOMETIMES IT RE-ENGAGES OR SOMETIMES MANUALLY DOWNSHIFTING CAUSES THE DRIVE TO RE-ENGAGE. DEALER SAYS THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE AND THE SOLUTION IS TO REPLACE THE TRANSMISSION. I'VE TAKEN IT TO A LOCAL MECHANIC AND A CALLED A LOCAL TRANSMISSION COMPANY AND THEY ALSO SAY THIS IS A KNOW ISSUE WITH THIS MODEL YEAR. A GOOGLE SEARCH TURNS UP MANY PEOPLE WITH THE SAME ISSUE FOR THIS MODEL YEAR OF THE ODYSSEY. I WILL HAVE TO GET THIS FIXED AS I CANNOT COUNT ON THE VEHICLE FOR RELIABLE AND SAFE TRANSPORTATION ANY MORE. *TR

NHTSA ID

10583687

Incident

Sep 12, 2013

Mileage

103,000 mi

I WAS ENTERING AN INTERSTATE ON A CROWDED DAY WITH CONSTRUCTION CONES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I HAD TO ACCELERATE QUICKLY TO GET INTO A LANE, AND HIT THE GAS PEDAL. I LET UP ON THE PEDAL ONCE I WAS ON THE HIGHWAY, BUT THE PEDAL WAS STUCK. I TRIED TO PULL IT UP, BUT IT WOULD NOT MOVE. I COULD NOT GET OVER, AS THE SHOULDER WAS BLOCKED, SO LOOKED FOR AN EXIT. I TRIED TO SHIFT INTO NEUTRAL, BUT IT DID NOT SLOW THE CAR WHEN I DID. THE ONLY SUCCESS I HAD AT ALL IN SLOWING THE CAR (I WAS GOING 70MPH WHEN IT STUCK) WAS IN HOLDING THE BRAKES, WHICH I DID. I FINALLY SAW AN EXIT WHERE I COULD GET OFF, AND I DID, HOLDING THE BRAKES AS HARD AS I COULD WHILE THROWING THE CAR INTO PARK AND KILLING THE ENGINE. IT WAS ONLY BY TURNING THE CAR OFF THAT I WAS ABLE TO STOP IT. WHEN WE STARTED THE VAN LATER, THERE WAS A HORRIBLE SMELL (PROBABLY THE BRAKES), BUT THE PEDAL CAME UNSTUCK. MY MECHANIC DISCOVERED THAT THE CRUISE CONTROL HAD GOTTEN STUCK, AND HE DISCONNECTED IT. IT IS THE MOST TERRIFYING CAR EXPERIENCE I HAVE EVER HAD, AND I AM ONLY THANKFUL THAT I WAS ALONE IN THE CAR, AND NOT WITH MY CHILDREN. I WAS INCREDIBLY LUCKY, WAS COMPLETELY TRAUMATIZED, BUT HAVE HAD TO GET OVER IT BECAUSE MY JOB REQUIRES A GREAT DEAL OF DRIVING. I DON'T TRUST MY VAN, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THE CRUISE CONTROL IS NOT CONNECTED. WHAT ELSE WILL IT DO NOW!? I HAVE BEEN UNHAPPY WITH VISIBILITY IN THIS VAN, ALREADY, AND THIS CONFIRMS THAT I WILL NEVER AGAIN PURCHASE ANOTHER ONE. *TR

NHTSA ID

10547853

Incident

Aug 14, 2013

Mileage

169,000 mi

HONDA ODYSSEY VEHICLES APPARENTLY HAVE A WELL KNOWN TRANSMISSION PROBLEM. MODELS FROM MULTIPLE YEARS (INCLUDING MINE: 2002) HAVE SHORT LIVES COMPARED TO ANY OTHER VEHICLE I'VE SEEN BEFORE. WORSE YET, HONDA REFUSES TO ADMIT THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, NOR WILL HONDA OFFER ANY HELP PAYING FOR THE VERY COSTLY REPAIRS. AND WORST OF ALL, EVEN IF THE TRANSMISSION IS REPLACED (ULTIMATELY, THE ONLY FIX THAT HONDA RECOMMENDS), THE NEW TRANSMISSION WILL ALSO FAIL PREMATURELY! BESIDES CAUSING OUTRAGEOUS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, IT'S REALLY A DANGEROUS PROBLEM FOR THE PUBLIC BESIDES. THE TRANSMISSION CAN FAIL UNEXPECTEDLY LEADING TO AN ACCIDENT. *TR

NHTSA ID

10490174

Incident

May 3, 2010

Mileage

70,000 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT NOTICED A GASOLINE SMELL FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE VEHICLE AND AFTER EXAMINING THE VEHICLE, THE CONTACT NOTICED A FUEL LEAK COMING FROM THE FILLER HOSE OF THE FUEL TANK. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED BY THE DEALER OR REPAIRED. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 37,000.

NHTSA ID

10457042

Incident

May 17, 2011

Mileage

37,000 mi

HONDA ODYSSEY 2002 TRANSMISSION AND FUEL PUMP PROBLEM. *TR

NHTSA ID

10375169

Incident

Jan 7, 2011

Mileage

91,907 mi

2002 HONDA ODYSSEY TRANSMISSION FAILURE. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT HONDA HAS DESIGN PROBLEMS. DESPITE THEIR ATTEMPTS TO FIX THE PROBLEM BY INSTALLING A FUEL PUMP TO LUBRICATE THE GEARS, THE TRANSMISSION (TORQUE CONVERTER) HAD A MASSIVE FAILURE. INITIALLY, HONDA AGREED TO PAY FOR 50% OF THE REPAIRS BUT RETRACTED THE OFFER AFTER WE VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT VARYING VERBAL REPAIR ESTIMATES PROVIDED BY THE DEALER. THE DEALER WOULD NOT PROVIDE THE REPAIR ESTIMATE IN WRITING EVEN AFTER ASKED TO. WE REQUESTED HONDA TO PAY FOR THE PART AND WE WOULD PAY FOR THE LABOR. HONDA'S POSITION WAS THAT THEY WOULD RATHER 1) RETRACT THE OFFER AND 2) NOT HELP WITH DEALERS PRICING OR BUSINESS PRACTICE BECAUSE THE DEALERSHIP WAS INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AND OPERATED. LISA PRAK, A REGIONAL MANAGER WITH HONDA SUGGESTED WE COULD CALL BBB AND FILE OUR COMPLAINT. HER SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED WE CONTACT THE NHTSA BUT THEY WOULD NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE REPAIRS. *TR

NHTSA ID

10227104

Incident

May 6, 2008

Mileage

113,400 mi

MY 2002 HONDA ODYSSEY HAS SOME FEATURES I WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT. EVERY TIME YOU STEP ON THE BRAKES IN A NEW DIRECTION, FORWARD OR REVERSE YOU HEAR A LOUD CLUNKING SOUND AS THE BRAKES ENGAGE THE ROTORS. I BELIEVE THIS IS A HAZARD AS WELL AS AN ANNOYANCE. I DON'T BELIEVE THE BRAKES ARE ENGAGING AS SOON AS YOU STEP ON THE PEDDLE. THEIR P.R. SPIN SAYS THEY MANUFACTURER ROOM FOR HEAT EXPANSION IN THE BRAKE PADS. I HAVE NEVER EVER HAD A VEHICLE THAT EXHIBITS THIS PROBLEM. THE SECOND PROBLEM IS THEIR NOISY GAS TANK SLOSHING THAT IS VERY PROMINENT IN THE VEHICLE. THIS ONE IS MORE OF AN ANNOYANCE.*JB

NHTSA ID

10013774

Incident

Feb 12, 2003

CONSUMER STATES WHILE TRAVELING WITHOUT ANY INDICATION DASH BOARD INDICATION LIGHTS WOULD FLASH ON/OFF. DEALER WAS CONTACTED. PLEASE PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION. MR

NHTSA ID

8024186