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2014 Keystone Montana-Mountaineer Problems

Owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA, grouped by component

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Owner complaintsComplaints are reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a complaint does not establish that a defect exists. Volume is influenced by how many of a vehicle were sold, how long it has been on the road, and how much attention an issue has received.
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Latest Apr 25, 2014
Components namedHow many of our component categories appear on at least one report for this model year. One report can name several.
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Crash or fire reportedComplaints whose submitter recorded that a crash or a fire occurred. These are the reporter's own answers on the NHTSA form, not verified findings.
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What this page shows

Everything below is an owner-reported complaint submitted to NHTSA about the 2014 Keystone Montana-Mountaineer, grouped by the component NHTSA recorded on the report. These are not confirmed defects, and they are not recalls. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a category with more reports in it is not evidence that a part is defective.

Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.

Reports by component

Ranked by how many owner reports name each component category

  • Body & structure350.0%
  • Brakes116.7%
  • Engine116.7%
  • Other / unspecified116.7%

Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.

Each component in detail

What the reports in each category say, in the owners' own words

Body & structure

Reports naming the vehicle structure, frame, body panels, doors, hood and trim.

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reports

From owner reports, verbatim

BEFORE RETURNING TO OR. I TOOK MY RV TO HOUSTON METALLURGICAL LABORATORY, INC. I SUSPECTED SOME POSSIBLE CORROSION. (EXCERPT). OUR FIRST OBSERVATION WAS THE ALUMINUM WELDING OF THE FLOOR FRAMEWORK IN WHICH WE COULD SEE SOME OF THE WELDING WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE TO VISUAL INSPECTION TO MORE THAN ONE WELDING CODE......ONE EXAMPLE.....PHOTO PAGES #1 THRU 7 SHOW WELDS THAT WOULD NOT PASS A VISUAL INSPECTION. I KNOW YOU ALSO HAD CONCERNS DUE TO AIR FLOW, (COMPARTMENTS THAT SHOULD BE SEALED BUT ARE NOT) THAT THE ALUMINUM BEAMS ARE SHOWING WHAT APPEARS TO BE INITIAL STAGES OF CORROSION. CONCERNS THAT CONTAMINATED AIR (FROM VENTS SUCH AS HOLDING TANKS, HEATER, GAS TANKS) MAY BE ACCELERATING THE CORROSION AND MAY ALSO BE INTRODUCING A FORM OF CORROSION KNOWN AS MIC/MAC (MICROBIOLOGICAL INDUCED OR ASSISTED CORROSION) WHICH MAY TURN BE A HEALTH HAZARD........I HAVE NOT READ OR STUDIED YOUR WARRANTY PAPERS BUT IF THE ITEMS WE SEE ARE IN DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE NFPA 1192 DOCUMENT THEN IF THE MANUFACTURER DOES NOT WANT TO ADDRESS THE VIOLATIONS THEN I WOULD REPORT TO THE NFPA, DOCUMENT ALL ASPECTS OF VIOLATIONS INCLUDING QUOTING THE RULES OR MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS-STATING THE VIOLATION ALONG WITH DOCUMENTATION. I WOULD ALSO CONTACT NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE NFPA....I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONTACT CARR ENGINEERING HERE IN HOUSTON WHILE YOU ARE IN TOWN...HOUSTON METALLURGICAL LAB. INC. REPORT CONTAINS 24 PHOTOS THEY TOOK. NOTE MY COMPLAINT LETTER HAS 126 PG CONTAINING NFPA CODES AND PHOTOS OF EACH COMPLAINT. AS TODAY THE SELLING DEALER HAS NOT SCHEDULED MY RV FOR WARRANTY. THEY HAVE PHOTOS OF A BLADE SEAL THAT IS WAVY AND TAPE THAT IS COVERING A HOLE IN THE ROOF AND A WORN SPOT..... RECENTLY I HAND CARRIED A LETTER TO THE SELLING DEALER, SERVICE MGR HAVING WHAT I BELIEVE ARE 52 VALID WARRANTY ITEMS. TECH MGR. SAID HE HAS MY 52 COMPLAINTS. *TR

NHTSA ID 10584788 · filed Apr 25, 2014

NFPA 7.2.4 SHOWER STALLS. IN NO CASE SHALL THE DEPTH OF A SHOWER RECEPTOR BE LESS THAN 2 IN. (51 MM) OR THAN 9 IN. (229 MM). MEASURED FROM THE TOP OF THE FINISHED DAM OR THRESHOLD TO THE TOP OF THE DRAIN. SHOWER IN MY RV MEASURES 10 1/2" TECHNICAL MGR. ASKS WHAT DOES THAT HURT? KEYSTONE ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE OUT THAT SHOWER STALL. TECH MGR. MEETING ME IN TX. TOLD ME 4 + TIMES I HAD AGREE TO HIS TERMS OR TAKE MY RV OFF THE LOT. FINALLY I TOOK RV OFF LOT BUT I NEEDED AN UNBIASED OPINION FOR IT WOULD BE BETWEEN ME AND POSSIBLY ALL OF THEM AT THE DEALERSHIP SO I CALLED WALLER COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPT. INCIDENT # 287911 DATED 01/15/2014. *TR

NHTSA ID 10584787 · filed Apr 25, 2014

Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.

Brakes

Reports naming service brakes, the antilock braking system, brake hoses, master cylinders or the parking brake.

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report

From owner reports, verbatim

FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS IN RV OWNERS MANUAL I CHECKED LUG NUT TORQUE AT SELLING DEALER. TORQUE WAS TOO HIGH. LATER SERVICE TECHNICIAN REPLACED THE FOUR WHEEL HUBS. SELLING DEALER SERVICE MANAGER REFUSED TO REPLACE BEARING CUPS AND BEARINGS IN MATCHED SETS. I CALLED DEXTER ASKING HELP. DEXTER SHOWED ME IN THE WEBSITE REPLACING SETS IS RECOMMENDED. THIS WAS BEFORE WE LEFT OREGON TO TEXAS FOR THE HOLIDAYS. I HAVE EMAILED NUMEROUS COMPANIES ASKING INFORMATION ABOUT MATCHED SETS. EACH COMPANY AGREED MATCHED BEARING CUPS AND BEARING ARE TO BE REPLACED IN MATCHED SETS. THE SERVICE MANAGER STILL REFUSES TO INSTALL MATCHED SETS. AFTER RETURNING FROM OREGON I READ THE DEXTER AXLE BOOK THAT CAME WITH MY RV. I READ IN DEXTERS BOOK INSTALLING MATCHING SETS IS REQUIRED AND EMAILED THIS TO THE SERVICE MANAGER. VISITING HIM THE OTHER DAY IN HIS OFFICE HE STATED THE SELLING DEALER DOES NOT INSTALL BEARING CUPS AND BEARING IN MATCHED SETS AND HE WILL NOT INSTALL MATCHED SETS IN MY RV. ANOTHER BOOKLET THAT CAME WITH MY RV IS A BOOKLET FROM CLI. CLI REQUIRES MATCHED SETS TO BE INSTALLED AND AGAIN THE SERVICE MANAGER REFUSED TO INSTALL PER MANUFACTURERS REQUIREMENTS. WHAT CAN I DO? *TR

NHTSA ID 10584783 · filed Apr 25, 2014

Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.

Engine

Reports naming the engine itself — including stalling, misfires, oil consumption, cooling and internal engine components.

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report

From owner reports, verbatim

DECEMBER 26, 2013, MY WIFE AND I STOPPED AT A REST STOP IN VAN HORN, TEXAS FOR A FEW HOURS REST. OUR RV WAS NOT MANUFACTURED WITH A FURNACE AIR RETURN DUCT. WE HAD JUST BOUGHT A NEW DODGE 3500 WITH A CUMMINS DIESEL ENGINE HAVING ALL THE BELLS & WHISTLES (FIRST FOR US). WAKING UP I DECIDE TO SHOW OFF THE (NEW TO US) ENGINE REMOTE START FEATURE. BEFORE THE ENGINE STARTED I WAS PUTTING ON MY SHOES TO WALK OUR PET. WHILE WAITING ON OUR DOG TO RELIEVE HERSELF I HEARD MY WIFE YELLING OUT, EXHAUST IS COMING INSIDE. I DIDN'T HAVE A TRUCK KEY WITH ME SO I RAN TO THE RV TO SHUT OFF THE PROPANE FUEL FURNACE. THE FURNACE TAKING TIME TO SHUT OFF I STUPIDLY TURNED ON THE LIVING ROOM POWER VENT IN THE CEILING. THIS VERY POWERFUL VENT FAN MADE THIS SITUATION MORE DANGEROUS. UNDER PRESSURE HEARING MY WIFE YELLING I DIDN'T REACT PROPERLY AND BEGAN PRESSING FURNACE BUTTONS WHILE STANDING ON THE STEPS TO BED & BATHROOM ABOVE THE TWO FURNACE AIR RETURN GRILLS I BREATHED A LOT OF THE DIESELS EXHAUST. I CALLED POISON CONTROL FOR MY LUGS WERE BURNING SOMETHING TERRIBLY. KEYSTONE RV MANUFACTURED OUR 5TH WHEEL WITHOUT A FURNACE AIR RETURN DUCT. OPERATING A VENT FAN DRAWS OUTSIDE AIR IN REVERSE DIRECTION THROUGH THE FURNACE TWO WOODEN VENTS LOCATED IN THE STEPS I WAS STANDING ON. WE HAVE NO WAY TO PREVENT OUTSIDE AIR (CONTAINING EXHAUST FUMES OR ANY OTHER HARMFUL PRODUCT PRESENT IN THE AIR) FROM FREE FLOWING INTO RV LIVING QUARTERS WITH FURNACE FAN ON OR OFF. KEYSTONE AND SELLING DEALER REFUSES TO REMEDY THIS LIFE THREATENING CONDITION. KEYSTONE CONTINUES TO STATE THEY BUILT OUR RV TO CODE AND RECENTLY KEYSTONE TECHNICAL MANAGER STATED TO ME AS OTHER TIMES, A FURNACE AIR DUCT IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED IN THE FURNACE SYSTEM. ATWOOD THE FURNACE MANUFACTURER RECENTLY EMAILED ME "DID YOU CONTACT KEYSTONE? THEY INSTALLED THE FURNACE WRONG." KEYSTONE REFUSES TO INSTALL A DUCT. *TR

NHTSA ID 10584780 · filed Apr 25, 2014

Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.

Other / unspecified

Reports whose component NHTSA recorded as unknown, or that do not map to one of the categories above.

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report

From owner reports, verbatim

FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS IN RV OWNERS MANUAL I CHECKED LUG NUT TORQUE AT SELLING DEALER. TORQUE WAS TOO HIGH. LATER SERVICE TECHNICIAN REPLACED THE FOUR WHEEL HUBS. SELLING DEALER SERVICE MANAGER REFUSED TO REPLACE BEARING CUPS AND BEARINGS IN MATCHED SETS. I CALLED DEXTER ASKING HELP. DEXTER SHOWED ME IN THE WEBSITE REPLACING SETS IS RECOMMENDED. THIS WAS BEFORE WE LEFT OREGON TO TEXAS FOR THE HOLIDAYS. I HAVE EMAILED NUMEROUS COMPANIES ASKING INFORMATION ABOUT MATCHED SETS. EACH COMPANY AGREED MATCHED BEARING CUPS AND BEARING ARE TO BE REPLACED IN MATCHED SETS. THE SERVICE MANAGER STILL REFUSES TO INSTALL MATCHED SETS. AFTER RETURNING FROM OREGON I READ THE DEXTER AXLE BOOK THAT CAME WITH MY RV. I READ IN DEXTERS BOOK INSTALLING MATCHING SETS IS REQUIRED AND EMAILED THIS TO THE SERVICE MANAGER. VISITING HIM THE OTHER DAY IN HIS OFFICE HE STATED THE SELLING DEALER DOES NOT INSTALL BEARING CUPS AND BEARING IN MATCHED SETS AND HE WILL NOT INSTALL MATCHED SETS IN MY RV. ANOTHER BOOKLET THAT CAME WITH MY RV IS A BOOKLET FROM CLI. CLI REQUIRES MATCHED SETS TO BE INSTALLED AND AGAIN THE SERVICE MANAGER REFUSED TO INSTALL PER MANUFACTURERS REQUIREMENTS. WHAT CAN I DO? *TR

NHTSA ID 10584783 · filed Apr 25, 2014

Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.

Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.

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