DASHBOARD ON 2009 LEXUS ES 350 HAS BEGUN TO MELT AND ON SUNNY DAYS THE REFLECTION ON THE WINDSHIELD POSES A SAFETY HAZARD AND REDUCES VISIBILITY. THERE WAS A RECALL FOR THIS PROBLEM ON 2007 AND 2008 MODELS. THE 2009 IS IDENTICAL IN DESIGN AND LEXUS SHOULD FIX THIS. I CONTACTED THEM AND THEY OFFERED TO PAY A SMALL PORTION OF THE $1700 REPAIR COSTS.
- NHTSA ID
- 11132175
- Incident
- Jul 10, 2018
- Mileage
- 72,000 mi
Airbags
Filed Mar 19, 2018
TAKATA AIR BAG RECALL; RECEIVED NOTICE OF RECALL IN FEBRUARY, 2017; AS OF 3/19/2018, WE HAVE HAD NO CORRESPONDENCE TO SCHEDULE REPAIR
- NHTSA ID
- 11080301
- Incident
- Feb 7, 2017
Airbags
Filed Feb 19, 2018
FAULTY AIRBAG HARNESS WIRRING. DEAR SIR OR MADAM, THIS IS TO REPORT THAT 2007-2012 IS 250, IS 350 AND ES 350 HAS FAULTY AIRBAG WIRING HARNESS WHICH DISABLES THE AIRBAGS. CLUBLEXUS.COM HAS RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS. THE REPAIRS WILL ONLY BE DONE OR CORRECT IF THE VEHICLE IS UNDER 6 YEARS OLD OR 70,000 MILES, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST. FEW THOUSAND CUSTOMERS HAVE CARS LESS THAN 70,000 MILES BUY BEYOND 72 MONTHS BUT LEXUS REFUSES TO RECTIFY THIS TSB WARNING UNDER THE WARRANTY. IT IS NOT OUR FAULTS THAT THE VEHICLES HAVE BEEN DRIVEN LESS THAN 70,000 MILES IN 6 YEARS. THE COST TO REPAIR THIS IS IN THE UPWARDS OF 4000$. THIS IS RIDICULOUS ON THE PART OF LEXUS AND NHTSA. THE AIRBAG WIRING SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE RECALLS ALONG WITH THE TAKATA RECALLS AS THEY ARE CONNECTED BUT LEXUS REFUSES TO AGREE TO THE CONSUMER COMPLAINTS AND HAVE DARED MANY CUSTOMERS TO CHALLENGE NHTSA TO GET IT COVERED UNDER RECALL. PLEASE HELP THOUSANDS OF LEXUS DRIVERS AND THEIR FAMILIES FROM THIS FATAL TSB FAULT WHICH LEXUS REFUSES TO FIX. FURTHER, LEXUS STATED THAT "IF THE FAULT IS COVERED BY THE RECALL, IT WILL BE FIXED WITHOUT FAIL". SO FAR LEXUS WANTS TO GET RICHER BY CHARGING CONSUMERS $4000.00 FOR A PART THAT THEY INSTALLED TO BIG WITH. PLEASE CHECK THE CLUBLEXUS.COM FORUM REGARDING THE AIRBAG LIGHTS COMING ON AND THE REACTION THAT LEXUS HAS SUBMITTED TO ITS CUSTOMERS. THEY ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEIR FAMILIES LIVES IN DANGER JUST BECAUSE NHTSA DID NOT TELL THEM TO INCLUDE AIRBAG HARNESS WIRING IN THE TAKATA RECALL, EVEN IF THE VEHICLES ARE BEYOND WARRANTY REPAIRS. PLEASE HELP US IN THESE DIRE AND UNSAFE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU
- NHTSA ID
- 11073588
- Incident
- Nov 20, 2017
- Mileage
- 39,000 mi
Visibility
Filed Jan 30, 2018
MELTING DASHBOARD PROBLEM WHICH AFFECTS VISIBILITY. I CALLED LEXUS HEADQUARTERS IN AUGUST 2017 AND REPORTED THE PROBLEM. I TOOK THE CAR IN TO LEXUS DEALER AND THEY TOOK PICTURES WHICH THEY SAID THEY WOULD SUBMIT SOMEWHERE. AFTER MANY MONTHS, I CALLED HEADQUARTERS AGAIN. I GOT A CALL FROM THEM ON 1/29/2018 STATING THAT MY CAR IS NO LONGER UNDER WARRANTY. THEY WANT ME TO PAY TO REPLACE DASHBOARD. MANY OTHER LEXUS MODELS HAVE BEEN RECALLED FOR THIS SAME PROBLEM. HOWEVER, THEY INDICATED MY MODEL WAS NOT UNDER RECALL. SINCE MY CAR ALSO HAVE THE DEFECTED MATERIAL THAT WAS USED IN THOSE OTHER MODELS, I BELIEVE LEXUS SHOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THE DASHBOARD. THE ES350 SHOULD ALSO BE UNDER RECALL BECAUSE THE PROBLEM EXISTS IN THIS MODEL. PLEASE CONTACT ME TO ADVISE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11065888
- Incident
- Aug 1, 2017
Airbags
Filed Dec 20, 2017
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. LEN STOLER LEXUS IN OWINGS MILLS, MARYLAND WAS MADE AWARE OF THE RECALL AND STATED THAT THE PARTS WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. PARTS DISTRIBUTION DISCONNECT. *TT
- NHTSA ID
- 11055731
- Incident
- Feb 1, 2017
Airbags
Filed Dec 18, 2017
TAKATA RECALL I RECEIVED RECALL NOTICE IN THE PAST AND WAS TOLD I WOULD BE NOTIFIED WHEN PARTS WERE AVAILABLE. NOW DEALER TELLS ME THERE IS NO RECALL. DEALER IS LEXUS OF ROCKVILLE CENTRE NY
- NHTSA ID
- 11055214
- Incident
- Dec 18, 2017
- Mileage
- 55,000 mi
Airbags
Filed Dec 12, 2017
TAKATA INFLATORS- TAKATA RECALL WE SUBMITTED TO THE DEALERSHIP THE REQUEST TO REPLACE THE AIRBAGS PER THE RECALL AND AT THE TIME THESE WERE NOT BEEN AVAILABLE. IT'S BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS, AND THESE HAVE NOT BEEN REPLACED.
- NHTSA ID
- 11054077
- Incident
- May 28, 2016
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE DEALER (LEN STOLER LEXUS, 11311 REISTERSTOWN RD, OWINGS MILLS, MD 21117 (410) 773-9613) WAS CONTACTED AND RECALL REPAIR APPOINTMENTS WERE SCHEDULED. THE APPOINTMENTS WERE CANCELLED BY THE DEALER, STATING THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THIS OCCURRED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST YEAR. THE CONTACT CALLED THE MANUFACTURER AT 800-255-3987, BUT WAS GREETING BY A RECORDING, STATING TO CONTACT THE LOCAL LEXUS DEALER TO SCHEDULE A RECALL REPAIR APPOINTMENT. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. PARTS DISTRIBUTION DISCONNECT.
- NHTSA ID
- 11052789
- Incident
- Dec 6, 2017
Airbags
Filed Nov 22, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE RECALL NOTICE FOR NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 16V34000 (AIR BAGS) WAS RECEIVED IN MAY OF 2016. AFTER CONTACTING THE DEALER AND THE MANUFACTURER ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE PARTS NEEDED FOR THE RECALL REMEDY WERE STILL NOT AVAILABLE AND NO ESTIMATED TIME FOR RECEIVING THE PARTS COULD BE PROVIDED. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. *TT *TR
- NHTSA ID
- 11048056
- Incident
- May 1, 2016
TAKATA RECALL - LEXUS STATES THAT THEY CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THE PARTS FOR MY VEHICLE
- NHTSA ID
- 11042810
- Incident
- May 19, 2009
Airbags
Filed Oct 30, 2017
TAKATA RECALL WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET THIS AIRBAG REPLACED? I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM LEXUS IN MARCH DETAILING THE PROBLEM, AND TELLING ME THAT IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE IN SEPTEMBER. IT IS NOW 10/30. PLEASE HELP!
- NHTSA ID
- 11041090
- Incident
- Mar 16, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 29, 2017
TAKATA RECALL MY VEHICLE IS NOT REPAIRED, LEXUS HAS FAILED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN TIMELY MANNER. I AM UNABLE TO USE THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT AS THE FRONT PASSENGER IS IN THE RISK OF SERIOUS INJURY
- NHTSA ID
- 11040865
- Incident
- Jan 19, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 27, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE DEALER WAS CONTACTED (LEXUS OF TOWSON IN TOWSON, MD, 410-769-9400) AND CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND WAS NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM WHEN THE PARTS WERE TO BECOME AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11040539
- Incident
- Jan 9, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 25, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS) HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. METRO LEXUS LOCATED AT 13600 BROOKPARK RD, CLEVLAND, OH 44135 WAS CONTACTED AND CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND WAS NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM WHEN THE PARTS WERE TO BECOME AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. THE VIN WAS NOT PROVIDED.
- NHTSA ID
- 11039506
- Incident
- Jan 9, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 20, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT HAD NOT NOTIFIED A LOCAL DEALER. THE MANUFACTURER STATED THAT THE REMEDY PARTS WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.*BF UPDATED 8/1/18*JB
- NHTSA ID
- 11035135
- Incident
- Oct 20, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 18, 2017
TAKATA RECALL: IN JANUARY, 2017, WE RECEIVED NOTICE FROM LEXUS OF THE RECALL FOR THE RIGHT FRONT AIRBAG, NHTSA RECALL 17V006. AFTER WAITING SEVERAL MONTHS TO HEAR FROM THE DEALER, WE CALLED THEM ON 04/27/17 TO INQUIRE REGARDING STATUS OF AIRBAG REPLACEMENT AND WAS TOLD IT SHOULD BE IN MID-JUNE. HAVING HEARD NOTHING, WE CALLED AGAIN ON 07/17/17 AND WAS THEN TOLD IT WOULD BE DECEMBER. WE CALLED TODAY, 10/18/17, TO CONFIRM REPLACEMENT OF THE AIRBAG IN DECEMBER AND WAS TOLD THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THIS WOULD TAKE PLACE. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A FOLLOW-UP NOTICE FROM LEXUS REGARDING THIS LENGTHY DELAY. WE WERE TOLD BY THE DEALER TO CONTACT LEXUS CUSTOMER SERVICE OR SEE WHAT INFORMATION WAS AVAILABLE ON LEXUS WEBSITE. WE ARE WONDERING IF THIS MEANS LEXUS IS NOT CORRESPONDING WITH THEIR DEALERS SO THAT RECALL INFORMATION CAN BE GIVEN TO THE CAR OWNERS. WE HAVE; HOWEVER, RECEIVED NOTICE REGARDING THE AUTO AIRBAG SETTLEMENT. WE ARE VERY PATIENT PEOPLE; HOWEVER, A RESPONSE FROM THE DEALER OFFERING LITTLE TO NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE RECALL IS WHAT PROMPTED THIS COMPLAINT.
- NHTSA ID
- 11034322
- Incident
- Jan 9, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 18, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS). THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED PLAZA LEXUS (777 DECKER LN, CREVE COEUR, MO 63141 (314) 720-6048) WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE. PARTS DISTRIBUTION DISCONNECT.
- NHTSA ID
- 11034265
- Incident
- Jan 9, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 17, 2017
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED LEXUS OF RICHMOND AT 804-323-7695 AND STATED THAT PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT ALSO CALLED CHARLES BARKER LEXUS IN NEWPORT NEWS AT 757-234-6000 AND SCHEDULED AN APPOINTMENT; HOWEVER, THEY LATER STATED THAT THE PART WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED AND INFORMED THE CONTACT WHAT ZONE HER VEHICLE WAS IN, AND ADVISED HER TO CONTACT THE LOCAL DEALER. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11034003
- Incident
- Aug 1, 2016
Airbags
Filed Oct 13, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PART NEEDED FOR THE REPAIR WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED LEXUS OF BRIDGEWATER (1550 US-22, BRIDGEWATER, NJ 08807, PHONE NUMBER: (732) 271-4000) AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE PART WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE SOMETIME IN DECEMBER OF 2017. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THE PART MAY ARRIVE IN DECEMBER OR SPRING OF 2018. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11033234
- Incident
- May 3, 2017
Airbags
Filed Oct 12, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURE EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE DEALER (PRESTIGE LEXUS, 1000 NJ-17, RAMSEY, NJ 07446 (855) 484-6393) WAS CONTACTED AND CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11033148
- Incident
- Oct 12, 2017
Airbags
Filed Sep 20, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS). THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED FLOW LEXUS OF GREENSBORO (825 NORWALK ST, GREENSBORO, NC 27407 (336) 217-5400) WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE/PARTS DISTRIBUTION DISCONNECT.
- NHTSA ID
- 11024606
- Incident
- Jan 9, 2017
I RECEIVED NOTICE OF A MATCH FOUND FOR MY VIN REGARDING TAKATA AIRBAG. LEXUS DEALER CLAIMS VEHICLE IS NOT LISTED IN LEXUS MASTER DATABASE. I CONTACTED THE SENDER AND THEY ESCALATED THE INFO AND CONFIRMED THAT MY VEHICLE DOES HAVE TAKATA AIRBAGS. LEXUS CLAIMS THEY ARE WRONG. PLEASE ADVISE HOW TO PROCEED.
- NHTSA ID
- 11021379
- Incident
- Aug 3, 2017
Airbags
Filed Aug 29, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PART NEEDED FOR THE REPAIR WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED HENDERSON LEXUS (LOCATED AT 7736 E GATE RD, HENDERSON, NV 89011, PHONE NUMBER: (702) 228-7736) AND WAS INFORMED THAT THEY WERE STILL WAITING ON A REPLACEMENT PART. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11020408
- Incident
- Jan 11, 2017
Airbags
Filed Aug 21, 2017
TAKATA RECALL-IT IS TAKING ENTIRELY TOO LONG FOR MY CAR TO GET RECALLED AND THE AIR BAGS TO GET FIXED. MY WIFE AND I DRIVE 50 MILES A DAY CAR POOLING TO WORK DOWN A DANGEROUS HIGHWAY 270 IN ST. LOUIS. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11018732
- Incident
- Aug 1, 2016
Airbags
Filed Aug 21, 2017
TL* TAKATA RECALL. THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 LEXUS ES350. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V006000 (AIR BAGS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT STATED THAT MCGRATH LEXUS OF WESTMONT (500 E OGDEN AVE, WESTMONT, IL 60559 (855) 462-6964) WAS CONTACTED AND CONFIRMED THAT PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL 2019. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.
- NHTSA ID
- 11018667
- Incident
- Aug 21, 2017
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.