2008 Scion Tc Problems

Burning oil bad

ENGINE CONSUMES TOO MUCH OIL . HAVE TO REFILL THE OIL IN MY ENGINE ABOUT TWO TIMES IN BETWEEN OIL CHANGES.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 TOYOTA SCION TC. THE CONTACT STATED THAT AFTER THE VEHICLE WAS PARKED, HE OBSERVED THAT THE REAR DRIVER SIDE DOOR GARNISH WAS FRACTURED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE GARNISH ASSEMBLY WAS FRACTURED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 42,000.

JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHERS, MY REAR HATCH PANEL CAME OFF I WAS OPENING THE TRUNK. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS ISN'T A RECALL. I NEVER GOT THE LETTER STATING AN EXTENDED WARRANTY TO REPLACE THIS. HORRIBLE. THE ONLY REASON IT HASN'T COME OFF PRIOR TO THIS IS BECAUSE I CONTORT MY BODY TO OPEN THE TRUNK BECAUSE I CAN TELL IT WANTS TO COME OFF. WELL IT FINALLY DID. ANYONE THAT GOES NEAR THAT REAR HATCH PANEL WITH THE EMBLEM GETS YELLED AT. *TR

THIS VEHICLE WAS JUST INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT, REAR-ENDING THE CAR IN FRONT, THE FRONT END OF THE VEHICLE IS DEMOLISHED, THE RADIATOR AND EVERYTHING CRUSHED AND SLAMMED BACK, FLUIDS LEAKING FROM EVERYTHING, EVEN BUCKLED THE PASSENGER DOOR, THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF THIS VEHICLE'S AIRBAGS DEPLOYED. THE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE SCENE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID NOT DEPLOY.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2008 SCION TC. WHILE DRIVING 25 MPH, THE CONTACT'S VEHICLE CRASHED INTO THE REAR OF ANOTHER VEHICLE. THE AIR BAGS FAILED TO DEPLOY. A POLICE REPORT WAS FILED AND THERE WERE NO INJURIES. THE VEHICLE WAS DESTROYED AND TOWED TO AN INDEPENDENT FACILITY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 156,000.

ON SEP 24TH, 2017, I WAS MERGING ONTO THE SOUTH 710 FREEWAY FROM MISSION BOULEVARD IN ALHAMBRA, CA AROUND 7 PM WHEN MY CLOSED SUNROOF SHATTERED. I QUICKLY PULLED OVER AND LOOKED AT THE ROOF IN THE FADING LIGHT OF SUNSET. THERE WERE NO TREES, BIRDS OR OVERHEAD BRIDGES WHERE THE FAILURE OCCURRED AND APPEARED TO BE NO OBJECTS THAT APPEARED TO HAVE HIT THE CAR OR EMBEDDED IN THE SUNROOF GLASS. I CLEANED SOME OF THE LOOSE GLASS AND CAREFULLY ROLLED BACK ONTO THE 710 FREEWAY WAY TO DRIVE UP THE FREEWAY TO GET HOME AND CONTACT MY INSURANCE COMPANY

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 TOYOTA SCION. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING 65 MPH , SHE HEARD A LOUD POPPING SOUND AND THE SUN ROOF SHUDDERED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKE TO A LOCAL MECHANIC WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE FAILURE AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 102,220.

MY ENGINE HAD TO BE REPLACED, BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING A SCION THEY GOT A COROLLA ENGINE, SO NOW MY CAR DRINKS TOO MUCH GAS. THE BRAKES STOPPED BEING STOP CLOSE TO ON THE DIME AFTER THEY FIXED THE ENGINE, AND REPLACED THE TIRES. WHEN THEY CHANGED THE TIRES THEY USED IMPACT STUDS/BOLTS. EVERY TIME I USE CRUISE CONTROL IT GOES FASTER A LITTLE NO MATTER IF IT'S UP OR DOWN HILL. I HAVE TO PUSH DOWN TO SLOW IT DOWN.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SCION TC. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE STEERING WHEEL TURNED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS INDEPENDENTLY. IN ADDITION, THE VEHICLE JERKED WHEN THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE THE FAILURE WAS UNDETERMINED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. WHILE DRIVING OVER A SPEED BUMP, THE VEHICLE SPUN OUT INDEPENDENTLY. THE CONTACT LOST CONTROL AND THE VEHICLE SPUN INTO THE GRASS AND STALLED. A POLICE REPORT WAS FILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE CONTACT'S RESIDENCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TIE ROD NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 140,000.

MY ENGINE HAD TO BE REPLACED, BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING A SCION THEY GOT A COROLLA ENGINE, SO NOW MY CAR DRINKS TOO MUCH GAS. THE BRAKES STOPPED BEING STOP CLOSE TO ON THE DIME AFTER THEY FIXED THE ENGINE, AND REPLACED THE TIRES. WHEN THEY CHANGED THE TIRES THEY USED IMPACT STUDS/BOLTS. EVERY TIME I USE CRUISE CONTROL IT GOES FASTER A LITTLE NO MATTER IF IT'S UP OR DOWN HILL. I HAVE TO PUSH DOWN TO SLOW IT DOWN.

I GOT ON THE FREEWAY DRIVING TO PICK UP MY MOM IN THE SUNDAY MORNING AROUND 6:50 AM SHE WORKS IN LAX DRIVING ON THE 110 SOUTH FREEWAY IN LOS ANGELES,CA. THIS HAPPEN BETWEEN MANCHESTER AND CENTURY . I WAS IN THE THIRD LANE ON THE FREEWAY I WAS GOING 65 MILES PER HOUR MOTION AND I SWITCH LANE TO THE RIGHT AND MY STEERING WHEEL LOCK ON ME AFTER SWITCHING LANE MY BREAK PEDAL WASN'T WORKING AND THE STEERING WASN'T RESPONDING TO THE LEFT , THE SUBJECT VEHICLE WAS MERGING REALLY FAST PASSING 2-1 LANES UNTIL I HIT THE WALL AND MY CAR FLIP UP-SIDE DOWN ROLLING FOR 13 SECONDS UP SIDE DOWN ON SIDE THE WALL. MY AIR BAG WHEN OFF WHEN THE CAR WAS UP SIDE DOWN. I LOOK AT THE RADIO AND SAW WHITE SMOKE I TURN OFF THE CAR,UN BUCKLE MY SEAT BELT UP-SIDE DOWN, CRAW OUT SIDE THE PASSENGER WINDOW. I GOT UP AND TOOK A PICTURE AND CALLED THE TOYOTA CORPORATION NOW UM WAITING FOR INSPECTION. FOR THE SUBJECT VEHICLE TO BE DEFECTED WELL UM LETTING PEOPLE BE AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM ON SCION TC 2008 I O MOST LOST MY LIFE. NOW I HAVE CUT FINGER SKIN AND LEFT ANKLE HURTS FROM TRYING TO USE THE BREAK PEDAL MY ELBOW HAS SCAR FRO THE WINDOW BREAKING I COVER MY FACE CROSSING MY ELBOWS AS A SHIELD FOR MY HEAD I HAD A SWEATER AND LONG SLEEVE MY IT STILL CUT MY LEFT ELBOW. I AM THE TITLE OWNER AND TOOK ME 7 YEARS TO PAY OFF THIS CAR BUT NOW I WANT MY MONEY BACK OR A REPLACE VEHICLE. I ONLY HAVE LIABILITY AND I KNOW THE INSURANCE WONT BELIEVE ME.

FIRST, THE RUBBER HATCH RELEASE MELTED & DRIPPED ONTO MY REAR BUMPER. (I SUSPECT THAT FAULTY WIRING OF SOME SORT KEPT THE RELEASE SOMEWHAT ENGAGED, WHICH MELTED THE RUBBER.) THEN THE HATCH LATCH/LOCK WOULD ONLY COMPLETELY RELEASE AFTER MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS. FINALLY, AFTER UNLOCKING THE HATCH & ENGAGING (I THOUGHT) THE RELEASE, THE ENTIRE PANEL PULLED OFF THE CAR, LEAVING IT DANGLING BY THE WIRING HARNESS. *JS

THE TRUNK LATCH BROKE OFF! A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON THE WEB AND LOW AND BEHOLD, THIS PROBLEM IS EVERYWHERE! IT IS SUCH A CHEAPLY MADE PART AND SO CLEARLY BREAKS ALL THE TIME. TOYOTA ABSOLUTELY SHOULD RECALL AND FIX THIS PROBLEM AT NO CHARGE TO OWNERS! *TR

CENTER CONSOLE BURST INTO FLAMES CAUSING AN INTERNAL FIRE, WHILE STATIONARY.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SCION TC. WHILE DRIVING 60 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 113,000.

TAKATA RECALL. MY FRONT TIRES WEARING FAST. WHEN I TOOK TO DEALER FOR SERVICE & ALIGNMENT, I WAS INFORMED THAT MY CAR HAS A ROW BAR THAT IS RUSTED AND FROZEN AND I WILL NEED TO REPLACE IT ($2,000 ESTIMATED). WHEN I DRIVE IT IN THE RAIN, THE CAR FLAILS ALL OVER THE LANE. I HAD TO STOP AND LET CARS PASS ME, I COULD ONLY DRIVE AT LOW SPEEDS AND I HAD TO PULL OVER 4 TIMES BEFORE GETTING HOME SAFELY. I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO DRIVE OFF THE ROAD. VERY SCARED AND DANGEROUS. I CAN'T DRIVE MY CAR ON WET ROADS. ALSO, I'M HAVING TO BUY NEW TIRES EVERY 20,000 MILES IT SEEMS AND I'VE REGULARLY HAD THEM ROTATED. LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T ROTATE THEM BECAUSE THE ROD WAS FROZEN AND IT'S ONLY THE TC MODEL THAT HAS THIS PARTICULAR ROD.

WHILE DRIVING THIS CAR I HAVE FELT AS IF I WAS GOING TO BE SLUNG INTO TRAFFIC ON THE INTERSTATE ,HIGHWAYS, CITY ROADS , COUNTRY ROADS, AND DEFINITELY IN MOST CURVES. IT'S LIKE THE CAR HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN GOING WHERE IT WANTS AT LOW SPEEDS YOU CAN'T FEEL OR SEE IT TO MUCH BUT AFTER AROUND 35 TO 40 IS WHEN IT'S MOST NOTICEABLE I FEEL THAT I GOT I WILL TRADE FOR SOME THIS HAS RESULTED IN MY VEHICLE TO BE TOTALED OUT. AS I WAS GOING AROUND A TURN ONE DAY THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY PULLED HARDER INTO THE TURN SO I TRIED TO ADJUST BUT IT SENT ME INTO A FISHTAIL AND BEFORE I COULD GET OFF THE ROAD I IMPACTED WITH ANOTHER CAR WHICH DEPLOYED SEVEN AIRBAGS.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 SCION TC. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE STEERING WHEEL TURNED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS INDEPENDENTLY. IN ADDITION, THE VEHICLE JERKED WHEN THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE THE FAILURE WAS UNDETERMINED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. WHILE DRIVING OVER A SPEED BUMP, THE VEHICLE SPUN OUT INDEPENDENTLY. THE CONTACT LOST CONTROL AND THE VEHICLE SPUN INTO THE GRASS AND STALLED. A POLICE REPORT WAS FILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE CONTACT'S RESIDENCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TIE ROD NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 140,000.

WHILE DRIVING THIS CAR I HAVE FELT AS IF I WAS GOING TO BE SLUNG INTO TRAFFIC ON THE INTERSTATE ,HIGHWAYS, CITY ROADS , COUNTRY ROADS, AND DEFINITELY IN MOST CURVES. IT'S LIKE THE CAR HAS A MIND OF ITS OWN GOING WHERE IT WANTS AT LOW SPEEDS YOU CAN'T FEEL OR SEE IT TO MUCH BUT AFTER AROUND 35 TO 40 IS WHEN IT'S MOST NOTICEABLE I FEEL THAT I GOT I WILL TRADE FOR SOME THIS HAS RESULTED IN MY VEHICLE TO BE TOTALED OUT. AS I WAS GOING AROUND A TURN ONE DAY THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY PULLED HARDER INTO THE TURN SO I TRIED TO ADJUST BUT IT SENT ME INTO A FISHTAIL AND BEFORE I COULD GET OFF THE ROAD I IMPACTED WITH ANOTHER CAR WHICH DEPLOYED SEVEN AIRBAGS.

2008 - SCION - TOYOTA - BURNING OIL, BURNING A QUART OF OIL IN LESS THAN EVERY 800 MILES. CAR IS UP TO DATE WITH ALL MAINTENANCE. MECHANIC REFERRED US TO DEALERSHIP. TOYOTA ISSUED A TSB - 'SOME 2006 ' 2011 MODEL YEAR VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH THE 2AZ-FE ENGINE MAY EXHIBIT ENGINE OIL CONSUMPTION. THE PISTON ASSEMBLY HAS BEEN CHANGED TO MINIMIZE OIL CONSUMPTION.' AND THAT 'P030# (CYLINDER # MISFIRE DETECTED) DTC MAY ALSO BE SET AS A RESULT OF OIL CONSUMPTION.' HOWEVER DEALERSHIP REFUSES TO EVEN TEST OR REPAIR THE VEHICLE. SAYING WE ONLY HAD UNTIL AUG 2017. WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED OF SUCH ISSUES, NO LETTERS OR ANYTHING WERE SENT TO US. CAR HAS ALWAYS BEEN REGISTERED AND OUR OWNER INFO HAS ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO TOYOTA. SO NOW WE ARE STUCK WITH DEFECTIVE VEHICLE.

THE FIRST IS ISSUE IS THE OIL CONSUMPTION IT CONSUME ALMOST 1Q IN 2K WHICH IS NOT WHAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE HAPPENING. I ONLY HAD THIS VEHICLE FOR 2 YEARS AND THE ENGINE BLEW WITH NO WARNING NO OIL LIGHT ON NOTHING.

TAKATA RECALL. MY FRONT TIRES WEARING FAST. WHEN I TOOK TO DEALER FOR SERVICE & ALIGNMENT, I WAS INFORMED THAT MY CAR HAS A ROW BAR THAT IS RUSTED AND FROZEN AND I WILL NEED TO REPLACE IT ($2,000 ESTIMATED). WHEN I DRIVE IT IN THE RAIN, THE CAR FLAILS ALL OVER THE LANE. I HAD TO STOP AND LET CARS PASS ME, I COULD ONLY DRIVE AT LOW SPEEDS AND I HAD TO PULL OVER 4 TIMES BEFORE GETTING HOME SAFELY. I FELT LIKE I WAS GOING TO DRIVE OFF THE ROAD. VERY SCARED AND DANGEROUS. I CAN'T DRIVE MY CAR ON WET ROADS. ALSO, I'M HAVING TO BUY NEW TIRES EVERY 20,000 MILES IT SEEMS AND I'VE REGULARLY HAD THEM ROTATED. LAST TIME THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T ROTATE THEM BECAUSE THE ROD WAS FROZEN AND IT'S ONLY THE TC MODEL THAT HAS THIS PARTICULAR ROD.

DRIVING AT 50 MPH,BEING FORCED TO RIGHT PAVING EDGE,CORRECTED QUICKLY TO LEFT,CAR WENT OVER CENTER LINE AND VERY EXTREME SINGLE VEHICLE CRASH WITH DRIVER AND FRONT SET PASSENGER .CAR WAS BEYOND DISTROYED.LOSS OF CONTROL UNKNOWN.ONE FACT THAT IS PRESENT IS LEFT FRONT TIRE HAS NO AIR IN TIRE,STILL ON WHEEL,AND NO DAMAGE TO TIRE.I FEEL THE TIRE WAS FORCE OFF WHEEL BEAD ,AIR LOSS INSTANTLY,AND WAS LIKE A BLOWOUT.THE ONLY MARKINGS ON ROAD WAS THE TIRE THREAD PATTERN WITHOUT ANY SKID MARKS AND A LIGHT SCARTCH MARK,OUTSIDE OF TIRE MARKS.TIRES WE REPLACED BY TOYOTA DEALER,,7,000 MILES,LIKE NEW,ROTATED,INSPECTD,GAGE AIR CHECKED 5000 MILES/6 MONTHS AGO ,TPS LIGHT NOT ON,SO NO REASON TO THINK LOW AIR PRESSURE NOR ANY TIRE ISSUE .TIRE IS BRIDGESTONE POTENZA 215/45R17 91V.WHEEL IS ORGINAL EQUIPMENT ALLOY 6 DOUBLE SPOKE,TIRE SIZE SAME AS ORGINAL.NO AIR,TIRE THREAD PATTEN PRINTED ON ROAD BUY RUBBER ONLY ,SCRATCH MADE BY OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE WHEEL AS ONLY POSSIBLE CAUSE,SO DID TIRE DEFLATE AND OVER CORRECT DRIVERS ACTIONS .BOTH ARE OK,AND 2 OTHERS THAT SAW ACCIDENT HAPPEN CAN NOT PLACE CAUSE.POLICE ALSO CAN NOT .NO DRINKING,DRUGS,CELL PHONES ECT.AT SITE 2 ADITIONAL TIRES DEFALTED ,STILL ON WHEELS,WITH ONLY ONE REAR WHEEL INFLATED,LEFT REAR,WHERE CAR HAS LITTLE DAMAGE.LEFT FRONT SUSPENSION IS DETACHED ALLOWING WHEEL TO TURN HARD TO LEFT AND UPWARD ,ASSUMED TO BE ACCIDENT DAMAGE,BUT DID STEERING/ SUSPENCION BRAKE LOOSE BEFORE ACCIDENT ? IS THIS A LOW PROFILE PERFORMANCE TIRE/WHEEL ACCIDENT ???

2008 SCION TC TIRE MONITORING SYSTEM DOES NOT CALIBRATE CORRECTLY. PURCHASED CAR ON MAY 10, 2008 AND TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM WAS ACTIVE. DEALER RESET AND STATED LIGHT WOULD GO OUT. ON MAY 12 TOOK BACK TO DEALER, PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE, SENSORS IN RIMS. WENT BACK ON MAY 16 FOR A TWO HOUR REPAIR THAT TOOK OVER 14 HOURS TO GET THE TIRE MONITORING SYSTEM TO CALIBRATE WITH THE SENSOR IN THE WHEELS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SCION KNEW THAT THE TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM HAS NOT BEEN PERFECTED. *TR

AS I WAS CHANGING LANES, I VEERED A LITTLE FAR ONTO THE LEFT SHOULDER AND HIT THE RUMBLE STRIPS ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD. I TURNED A SLIGHT RIGHT TO GET THE VEHICLE BACK INTO THE LEFT LANE AND MY TIRES "BROKE LOOSE". THE TIRE SEPARATED FROM THE RIM, AND I SLID INTO A HORIZONTAL POSITION, ACROSS BOTH LANES, ON THE RIM. I THEN TRIED TO STEER THE VEHICLE BACK INTO THE LEFT LANE, HOWEVER MY CAR TURNED A 180 AND WENT INTO A FORWARD HORIZONTAL MOTION. I THEN HIT A BUMP OR SOMETHING IN THE ROAD AND MY CAR FLIPPED AND WENT AIRBORNE. MY CAR MADE A COMPLETE TURN IN THE AIR, SMASHED ON ITS SIDE AND THEN LANDED ON ITS WHEELS, ON THE MEDIAN. IT THEN BOUNCED AND SMASHED INTO THE METAL POLES OF THE MEDIAN. MY CAR WAS TOTALED AND MIRACULOUSLY I HAVE VERY FEW MINOR INJURIES. I AM CONCERNED THAT THE TIRES ON THE SCION TC ARE SO LOW-PROFILE. I AM CONFUSED HOW THIS COULD HAPPEN ON A BRAND NEW CAR. ON A 2008 VEHICLE, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OVER RUMBLE STRIPS AND EASILY MANEUVER MY WAY BACK INTO MY LANE. THE TIRES SHOULD NOT BREAK LOOSE ON A BRAND NEW CAR. I PURCHASED THE CAR 3 WEEKS AGO AND HAD ROUGHLY 770 MILES ON IT. *TR

MY DAUGHTER HAD A NEW 2008 TOYOTA SCION, LESS THEN 3,000 MILES WHEN SHE WAS HIT BY A SEMI - FRONT DRIVERS SIDE. HER AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY ON EITHER SIDE -- EVEN THOUGH HER LIGHTS INDICATED THAT THEY DID DEPLOY. *TR HER SEATBELT DID NOT LOCK AND HOLD HER IN PLACE. SHE CAME UP AND OUT OF THE SHOULDER HARNESS AND HIT HER HEAD ON THE ROOF AND TOP PART OF THE WINDOW. TOYOTA HELD UP THE REPAIRS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS, FAILED TO SHOW WHEN THEY PROMISED TO SEND AN INVESTIGATOR TO THE TOYOTA BODY SHOP. REFUSED TO SEND COPY OF THE REPORT AND CLAIMED THAT NOTHING WAS WRONG. THEY EVEN SAID SHE PROBABLY CAME OUT OF THE SEATBELT AND HIT HER HEAD AFTER THE WRECK WHEN SHE UNBUCKLED HER BELT! THE CAR IS NOW REPAIRED , OVER $10,000 AND SHE'S VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF HER AND HER PASSENGERS IN THE FUTURE. NEITHER THE DEALER OR THE MANUFACTURER WILL GIVE HER ANSWERS. *TR