2005 Honda Odyssey Heating & air conditioning Problems

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 55-65 MPH, A ROCK STRUCK THE AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER. THE CONTACT STATED LATER THE AIR CONDITIONER STARTED BLOWING HOT AIR INSTEAD OF COLD AIR. THERE WERE NO WARNING LIGHTS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHO ADVISED THE CONTACT THAT THE AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER WAS PUNCTURED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STATED HE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE MANUFACTURER. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 85,400 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 85,445. UPDATED 5/2/11 *CN UPDATED 05/13/11

NHTSA ID

10393879

Incident

Mar 29, 2011

Mileage

85,400 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE AIR CONDITIONER FAILED. THE DEALER ADVISED THAT THE CONDENSER WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE WAS APPROXIMATELY 44,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 44,200.

NHTSA ID

10347626

Incident

Jul 7, 2010

Mileage

44,000 mi

THIS IS TO FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT AND REQUEST HONDA. I PURCHASED A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY COUNTING ON ITS QUALITY AND RELIABILITY AND UNFORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED. THE AIR CONDITIONER STOPPED WORKING AFTER ONLY 3 YEARS AND I HAD TO REPLACE THE CONDENSER JUST AT 37,000 MILES. BETTER YET I WAS TOLD BY HONDA DEALERSHIP THAT IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN COVERED BY WARRANTY ANYWAY BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSED BY 'SOME ROAD DEBRIS HITTING THE CONDENSER'. WHAT IS THE ODD THAT HUNDREDS OF HONDA CUSTOMERS HAVE RUN INTO THE SAME ISSUE (EVIDENCED BY THE DISCUSSION FORUM THREADS ON MANY THAT'S OUT THERE ON THE INTERNET). HONDA'S OFFICIAL SITE STATES: 'CAUTION: RADIATOR AND CONDENSER FINS ARE VERY THIN AND EASILY DAMAGED. DO NOT BEND THEM WITH HIGH WATER PRESSURE OR BRUSH'. SO WHY THEN DID HONDA PUT THE A/C CONDENSER COMPLETELY EXPOSED ON THE FRONT OF A VEHICLE THAT CAN LEGALLY TRAVEL AT SPEEDS UP TO 75 MPH? OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A DESIGN FLAW THAT HONDA SHOULD HAVE RECALLED, OR AT LEAST INSTALL A PROTECTIVE GRILLE BEFORE CUSTOMERS ARE HIT WITH EXPENSIVE REPAIRS. 2008 AND NEWER HONDA VANS NOW COME WITH STANDARD PROTECTION GUARDS ON THE FRONT BUT IT IS NOT FAIR FOR ALL YOUR LOYALTY CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE PURCHASED A 2007 OR EARLIER ODYSSEY. AS A REPUTABLE AUTO COMPANY, HONDA SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THIS OUTRIGHT FAULTY DESIGN. *TR

NHTSA ID

10276787

Incident

Mar 20, 2009

Mileage

37,000 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 30 MPH ON NORMAL ROAD CONDITIONS, THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM WAS ACTIVATED. WARM AIR IMMEDIATELY CIRCULATED THROUGHOUT THE AIR VENTS IN THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING AND THEY FOUND A PUNCTURE IN THE CONDENSER UNIT. THE TECHNICIAN STATED THAT THE FAILURE RESULTED FROM ROCKS IN DAMAGED ROADS. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 26,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE IS 38,000. UPDATED 06/23/09. *LJ THE PASSENGERS SIDE BLOWS COLD AIR AND THE DRIVERS SIDE BLOWS WARM AIR. UPDATED 06/23/09.*JB

NHTSA ID

10270191

Incident

Jun 10, 2008

Mileage

26,000 mi

A/C UNIT (DRIVER SIDE). CONDENSER HAD SMALL HOLE (PROBABLY FROM ROCK ON ROAD). REQUIRED REPLACEMENT. DAMAGE WOULD APPEAR TO BE RELATED TO DESIGN WEAKNESS--LOCATING EQUIPMENT IN VULNERABLE SPOT (FRONT--EXPOSED TO COMMON ROAD HAZARD, E.G., ROCKS). REPAIR COST WAS $750. DEALER AGREED TO PROVIDE FREE PART WHICH SAVED 50% OF THIS COST--I'M SURE THIS WAS TO APPEASE A LONG TIME CUSTOMER, BUT THIS WOULD ONLY BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE EVIDENCE, SUCH AS ON THIS SITE, WHICH DEMONSTRATED THE FREQUENCY OF THIS PROBLEM. *TR

NHTSA ID

10234192

Incident

Jun 1, 2008

Mileage

50,000 mi

FRONT GRILL IS DESIGNED IN A MANNER THAT OBJECTS CAN FLY THROUGH AND CAUSE DAMAGE TO INTERIOR PARTS. A/C CONDENSER WAS DAMAGED - APPEARANCE OF A ROCK SHOT PUNCTURE. *TR

NHTSA ID

10233347

Incident

Mar 15, 2008

Mileage

57,000 mi

A LEAK IN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM ALLEGEDLY CAUSED BY ROCK FROM THE HIGHWAY. THE CONDENSER WAS REPLACED AT A COST OF $720. *TR

NHTSA ID

10229970

Incident

Jul 5, 2007

Mileage

55,000 mi

2005 HONDA ODYSSEY HAS WIDE OPENING WHERE CONDENSER SITS - ALLOWING ROCKS TO DAMAGE IT. I HAVE HAD TO REPLACE THE CONDENSER TWICE IN A 6 MONTH PERIOD BECAUSE OF THIS ROCK PROBLEM. $750.00 TO FIX. AMERICAN HONDA WILL NOT ADMIT THERE IS A DESIGN FLAW NOR WILL THEY COVER THE COSTS. DRIVING THROUGH THE DESERT IN 100 DEGREE WEATHER WITH 3 YOUNG CHILDREN AND NO A/C IS RIDICULOUS. *TR

NHTSA ID

10226526

Incident

Sep 4, 2007

Mileage

40,000 mi

ON HONDA ODYSSEY 2005 MODEL YEAR (POTENTIALLY OTHER MODEL YEARS TOO), THE FLAWED PLACEMENT OF AIR CONDITIONING CONDENSER IN THE FRONT WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION CAUSE CONDENSER TO FAIL UPON IMPACT FROM ROAD DEBRIS FLYING INTO IT. WHEN CONDENSER FAILS AND LEAKS, LIGHT SMOKE IS OBSERVED. THIS IS A POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARD, NOT TO MENTION UP TO $1000 COST INCURRED TO REPLACE THE CONDENSER AND FIX THE AC SYSTEM. HONDA NEEDS TO FIX THIS DESIGN FLAW FOR ITS CUSTOMERS BY EITHER SHIELD THE CONDENSER OR MOVE IT TO A LOCATION LESS SUSCEPTIBLE TO ROAD DEBRIS IMPACT. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR EXPOSING THIS VITAL PART... *TR

NHTSA ID

10222426

Incident

Mar 14, 2008

I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH ABOUT 15 K MILES. IN JUNE WE NOTICED LOSS OF THE AC SYSTEM. UPON A VISIT TO LOCAL HONDA DEALER I WAS TOLD THAT A ROCK/ROAD DEBRIS PUNCTURED THE AC CONDENSER AND THE REPAIR ESTIMATE RUNS ABOUT $ 700.00. IN A PROCESS OF CALLING 5 OTHER LOCAL HONDA DEALERS TRYING TO GET A BETTER PRICING, I LEARNED THAT MY CASE IS NOT THAT RARE AS IT MAY SOUND. I WAS TOLD THAT ON AVERAGE THEY REPLACE ABOUT 2-3 AC CONDENSERS A MONTH. THEN I CHECKED THE INTERNET AND FOUND MUCH MORE ODYSSEY'S OWNER WITH IDENTICAL STORIES. MY ISSUE IS THAT 2005-2007 ODYSSEY HAS A DESIGN FLAW - TOO BIG OPENING UNDER THE BUMPER THAT ALLOWS ANY ROAD DEBRIS TO PENETRATE AC CONDENSER AND/OR RADIATOR. I AM FIRM BELIEVER THAT HONDA ACKNOWLEDGES THAT PROBLEM BECAUSE 2008 ODYSSEY HAS A VERY NICE, FACTORY INSTALLED SCREEN MESH UNDER THE BUMPER WITHOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT BODY UPGRADES FOR THAT YEAR MODEL. I CALLED THE REGIONAL HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER BUT THEY DENIED ANY RESPONSIBILITY. *TR

NHTSA ID

10207488

Incident

Jun 20, 2007

Mileage

11,500 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THERE IS A WIDE OPENING ON THE LOWER GRILL OF THE VEHICLE. A ROCK ENTERED THE GRILL AND CREATED A HOLE IN THE AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER, WHICH CAUSED A LEAK. HE TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER AND THEY REPLACED THE AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER. THE CONTACT RESEARCHED THE FAILURE AND FOUND NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FOR THIS SAME FAILURE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 61,000. UPDATED 12-12-07. *KB

NHTSA ID

10206489

Incident

Oct 14, 2007

Mileage

61,000 mi

I HAVE TWICE HAD MY AIR CONDITIONING CONDENSER GO OUT ON MY 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY, ONCE WHEN IT WAS 2 MONTHS OLD AND NOW AGAIN AS IT IS THREE YEARS OLD (37,000 MILES). THE DEALER SAYS IT IS FROM ROCKS HITTING THE CONDENSER UNIT. I FEEL THIS IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM (SEE HTTP://WWW.TOPIX.NET/FORUM/AUTOS/HONDA-ODYSSEY/TJBOPFUR3SVARKHCJ), BUT HONDA THUS FAR IS NOT ADDRESSING IT AS A RECALL PROBLEM. THEY ARE MAKING PEOPLE PAY TO HAVE THEM REPAIRED. THEY COVERED MY FIRST ONE BECAUSE THE VAN WAS ONLY TWO MONTHS OLD, BUT THE SECOND ONE IS NOT COVERED. *JB

NHTSA ID

10205445

Incident

Oct 8, 2007

Mileage

37,400 mi

SMALL ROCK DAMAGED AC CONDENSER. THIS CLEARLY IS THE DESIGN FLAW OF THE VEHICLE. THERE IS NO PROTECTIVE GRILL FOR THE FRAGILE AC CONDENSER. IT'S COST $600 TO REPLACE THE CONDENSER. *TR

NHTSA ID

10205415

Incident

Oct 3, 2007

Mileage

50,000 mi

TODAY I AM TOLD BY LOCAL HONDA DEALERS SERVICE SHOP THAT MY AC CONDENSER NEEDS TO BE REPLACED DUE TO ROAD DEBRIS (PROBABLY A ROCK) AND THE COST WILL BE OVER $900. I HAVE A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH LESS THAN 30,000 MILES. OF COURSE THIS HAPPENED WHEN WE WERE OUT OF TOWN AND DROVE HOME IN 95+ DEGREE TEMPERATURES. I HAVE SEEN HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS ONLINE ABOUT THE VERY SAME COMPLAINT. APPARENTLY IT IS A DESIGN FLAW THAT HONDA IS WELL AWARE OF. NOW I AM FACED WITH PAYING IT ALL OUT OF POCKET OR USING MY INSURANCE WITH ITS $500 DEDUCTIBLE AFTER HAVING BEEN TOLD THAT OUR COVERAGE COULD VERY WELL GO UP IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF IT (YET INSURANCE COMPANY COULD NOT SAY HOW MUCH OR WHEN). I AM BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE... MUCH LIKE THE POORLY DESIGNED HONDA AC CONDENSER. *JB

NHTSA ID

10205249

Incident

Oct 6, 2007

DEALERSHIP TELLING ME THAT MY AC ISN'T WORKING DUE TO A ROCK HITTING THE CONDENSER, & THAT IT WASN'T COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. I DID SOME RESEARCH ON LINE AND HAVE CAME ACROSS DOZENS & DOZENS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING THE SAME ISSUE. THIS IS A MANUFACTURER DEFAULT AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE US PAY THE PRICE. *TR

NHTSA ID

10202576

Incident

Sep 10, 2007

I INCURRED $700 OF EXPENSE WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONING COMPRESSOR ON MY CAR WAS PUNCTURED BY A STONE. THE COMPRESSOR IS PLACED IN FRONT OF AN OPEN GRILL JUST A FEW INCHES ABOVE GROUND LEVEL, WHERE IT IS OFTEN DAMAGED BY ROCKS COMING UP FROM THE ROAD. HONDA HAS HAD HUNDREDS OF SUCH DAMAGES, BUT REFUSES TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DESIGN FLAW, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE CORRECTED IT IN 2008 MODELS. *TR

NHTSA ID

10200750

Incident

Apr 1, 2007

Mileage

20,400 mi

ON 07/16/07 MY WIFE DROVE ABOUT 65 MILES TO A DR. APPOINTMENT. WHEN SHE STOPPED SMOKE CAME FROM UNDER THE HOOD. SHE CALLED ME AND I DROVE THE 65 MILES TO CHECK THE VAN. THE AIR CONDITIONER WAS NOT WORKING SO I TOOK THE VAN TO THE DEALER THINKING A WARRANTY REPAIR. THEY TOLD ME A OBJECT HIT THE AIR CONDITIONER COIL IN FRONT OF THE RADIATOR AND THIS WAS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. IT COST ME $720.35. THEY ADVISED ME TO ORDER A AFTERMARKET BILLITE GRILL FROM E BAY AND THIS WILL KEEP THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. I DID AND THIS COST ME $104.00. I DID A SEARCH IN THE INTERNET AND FOUND THIS IS HAPPENING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN ALL AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. SEEMS THERE IS POOR DESIGNING FOR THIS AREA OF THE VAN ALLOWING OBJECTS TO DAMAGE THE VEHICLE'S PARTS. PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS PROBLEM. *TR

NHTSA ID

10197377

Incident

Jul 16, 2007

Mileage

32,709 mi

HONDA ODYSSEY 2005, AIR CONDITIONER (A/)C CONDENSER JUST HAD NO VISIBLE HOLE. THE DEALER CLAIMED ONLY A LITTLE PEBBLE COULD CAUSE A LEAK. A/C STOPPED WORKING AS ALL THE FLUID LEAKE D OUT, CAUSING LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE AS A/C WAS FILLED WITH TOXIC CHEMICALS. IT WAS COSTING $100, WHICH WAS A DESIGN FLAW FROM HONDA. ALL OVER PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING BUT HONDA WAS JUST RIDING THEIR HIGH NAME AND MAKING PEOPLE SUFFER. HTTP://WWW.GOOGLE.COM/SEARCH?HL=EN&RLZ=1B2GGGL_EN___US207&Q=HONDA+ODYSSEY+2005+AC+NOT+WORKING&BTNG=SEARCH. HTTP://WWW.TOPIX.NET/FORUM/AUTOS/HONDA-ODYSSEY/TJBOPFUR3SVARKHCJ/P3. *AK

NHTSA ID

10196108

Incident

Jun 1, 2007

Mileage

15,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONING (A/C) PROBLEM WAS DIAGNOSED AS HAVING A HOLE IN THE A/C CONDENSER WHICH HONDA DEALER STATED WAS CAUSED BY ROAD DEBRIS WHICH WAS NOT COVERED BY THE WARRANTY. AFTER RESEARCHING FURTHER THE OBVIOUS CAUSE OF THIS WAS AN ENGINEERING DESIGN FLAW .- THE A/C CONDENSER WAS COMPLETELY EXPOSED TO ALL THE ELEMENTS OF THE ROAD WITH NO GRILLE/PROTECTION IN FRONT OF IT. HONDA SHOULD RECALL THESE VEHICLES AND INSTALL A GRILLE IN FRONT OF THE CONDENSER TO PROTECT IT, AND REIMBURSE THOSE OF US WHO HAVE PAID TO HAVE CONDENSERS REPLACED DUE TO THEIR ERROR. THIS DESIGN FLAW ALSO LEFT THE RADIATOR EXPOSED WHICH WAS A SAFETY HAZARD. NOTE, THE 2008 ODYSSEY APPEARED TO HAVE A GRILLE FOR PROTECTION.*AK

NHTSA ID

10196037

Incident

Jul 4, 2007

Mileage

31,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM FAILED DUE TO CONDENSER UNIT POORLY DESIGNED. UNIT WAS NOT PROTECTED AND KEPT GETTING HOLES IN IT. AS PER DEALER, WIDESPREAD PROBLEM WITH HONDA ON THIS VEHICLE. 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. *AK

NHTSA ID

10193548

Incident

Jun 15, 2007

Mileage

47,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONER (A/C ) CONDENSER PUNCTURED BY ROCK. DESIGN IS POOR ALLOWING CONDENSER TO BE EASILY PUNCTURED BY DEBRIS. *AK

NHTSA ID

10190778

Incident

May 15, 2007

FOR THE SECOND TIME IN THE LAST 16 MONTHS A DESIGN FLAW ALLOWED A ROCK TO DAMAGE THE AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER ON THE 2005 HONDA ODESSEY. THIS REPAIR IS $1000 AND NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY.

NHTSA ID

10190249

Incident

Apr 10, 2007

Mileage

85,000 mi

2005 ODYSSEY CAR HAS LESS THAN 30,000 MILES. A/C STOPPED WORKING. WAS TOLD DEBRIS WENT UNDER CAR AND PUNCTURED CONDENSER. NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. AFTER PAYING OUT OF POCKET FOR REPAIRS DISCOVERED MANY OTHER SIMILAR COMPLAINTS. EXACT SAME PROBLEM WITH EXACT SAME EXPLANATION BY DEALERSHIP REPAIR WORKER. IF THIS IS A DESIGN FLAW, IT SHOULD BE REPAIRED BUT NOT OUT OF MY POCKET. IT SEEMS VERY CLEAR HONDA IS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM. *AK

NHTSA ID

10188217

Incident

Apr 15, 2007

Mileage

28,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONER A/C CONDENSER/COMPRESSOR PUNCTURED, POSSIBLY BY STREET DEBRIS (ROCK?). DESIGN FLAW. NOT ADEQUATELY PROTECTED. EXPENSIVE, NON-WARRANTED ITEM!*AK

NHTSA ID

10186391

Incident

Mar 26, 2007

Mileage

21,000 mi

THE AIR CONDITIONER A/C ON MY 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY STOPPED WORKING. I TOOK VEHICLE TO THE DEALER, WHO SAID A ROCK HAD HIT THE CONDENSER AND CAUSED A HOLE. THIS WAS NOT COVERED BY WARRANTY AND WILL COST BETWEEN $800 AND $1000 TO FIX. HONDA STATED THAT IT WAS NOT UNDER WARRANTY BECAUSE IT WAS CAUSED BY AN OUTSIDE INFLUENCE IE THE ROCK. THERE WAS NO PROTECTION FOR THE CONDENSER AS IT WAS LOCATED NEAR TWO BIG HOLES FOR AIR INTAKE UNDER THE LICENCE PLATE, AND THE A/C CONDENSERWAS NOT PROTECTED BY MESH OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD PREVENT ROCKS FROM HITTING IT UNDER NORMAL ROAD CONDITIONS. IF I COULD NOT DRIVE IT ON THE ROAD WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT A ROCK HITTING THE A/C, THEN WHERE CAN I DRIVE IT? *AK

NHTSA ID

10185976

Incident

Nov 7, 2006

Mileage

30,000 mi