2005 Ic Ce Problems
Owner-reported complaints filed with NHTSA, grouped by component
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What this page shows
Everything below is an owner-reported complaint submitted to NHTSA about the 2005 Ic Ce, grouped by the component NHTSA recorded on the report. These are not confirmed defects, and they are not recalls. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a category with more reports in it is not evidence that a part is defective.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
Reports by component
Ranked by how many owner reports name each component category
- Body & structure240.0%
- Brakes120.0%
- Engine120.0%
- Other / unspecified120.0%
Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.
Each component in detail
What the reports in each category say, in the owners' own words
Body & structure
Reports naming the vehicle structure, frame, body panels, doors, hood and trim.
From owner reports, verbatim
FLOOR SILLS CRACKED AT BODY TIE DOWNS, TIE DOWNS HOLD BODY ON TO CHASSIS FRAME. *TR
FLOOR SILLS CRACKED AT BODY TIE DOWNS, TIE DOWNS HOLD BODY TO CHASSIS FRAME. *TR
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Brakes
Reports naming service brakes, the antilock braking system, brake hoses, master cylinders or the parking brake.
From owner reports, verbatim
12/21/04 EMERGENCY BRAKE WOULD NOT RELEASE. 12/30/04 BUS TOWED TO NUTMEG INTERNATIONAL TO BE FIXED 1/31/05 BUSS FIXED/ REPLACED COMPUTER PART IN SYSTEM RETURNED TO SERVICE 2/10/05 BRAKE SERVICE LIGHT CAME ON AND THEN OFF/ CALLED DATTCO INC. THEY TOLD US TO CHECK FLUIDS AND LOOK FOR FLUID LEAKS. THERE WERE NONE LIGHT WENT OFF. 3/9/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE WOULD NOT RELEASE AT PARK OUT. BRAKE EVENTUALLY RELEASED 3/11/05 BUS WAS SENT TO DATTCO INC. IN CT FOR REPAIR 5/5/05 BUS RETURNED TO ME. DATTCO REPLACED FULL WIRING HARNESS IN BUS 6/10/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE LOCKED UP WHILE BUS WAS ON ROUTE WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN DOING 30 MPH WIT NO WARNING. LUCKILY NO ONE WAS HURT. MY MECHANIC AND MYSELF MANAGED TO LIMP BUS BACK TO GARAGE WERE WE CALLED DATTCO INC. 6/13/05 BUS TOWED TO DATTCO INC. IN CT 7/5/05 BUS RETURNED TO US. DATTCO REPLACED MORE COMPUTER PARTS 7/29/05 EMERGENCY BRAKE LOCKED UP DOING BETWEEN 25-30 MPH WITH STUDENTS ON BOARD AGAIN WITH OUT ANY WARNING NEARLY AVOIDING A MAJOR COLLISION AS THERE ARE NO BRAKE LIGHTS THAT COME ON. LUCKILY AGAIN NO ONE WAS HURT. 8/1/05 BUS TOWED TO DATTCO INC. IN CT I THINK THAT ALL INCIDENTS ARE RELATED AND AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE AND I AM HEARING THAT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY BUS THEY ARE HAVING ISSUES WITH THIS NEW EMERGENCY BRAKE SYSTEM. *NM
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Engine
Reports naming the engine itself — including stalling, misfires, oil consumption, cooling and internal engine components.
From owner reports, verbatim
2005 INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL BUS ,4400 MILES ,TURBO FAILURE, REPLACED TURBO ACTUATOR, DEALERSHIP SAID CORROSION WAS THE CAUSE. *JB
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Other / unspecified
Reports whose component NHTSA recorded as unknown, or that do not map to one of the categories above.
From owner reports, verbatim
1. WHEN THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE GETS BELOW 20 DEGREES 2. STOP ARM MALFUNCTION ON BUS MEANS PUTTING CHILDREN IN DANGER 3. BUSES WILL BE PUT OUT OF SERVICE. *JB
Too few reports in this category for a page of its own — they appear in the full complaint list.
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers.
Elsewhere on this vehicle
Data sources
- NHTSA Office of Defects Investigation — owner-reported complaints and the components recorded on them
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