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2001 Nissan Maxima Suspension Problems

Owner-reported complaints naming the suspension system, filed with NHTSA

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Suspension reportsComplaints are reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a complaint does not establish that a defect exists. Volume is influenced by how many of a vehicle were sold, how long it has been on the road, and how much attention an issue has received.
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Latest Oct 16, 2022
Share of all reportsThis category as a share of every owner report on file for this model year. One report can name more than one component, so the categories overlap.
14%
of 172 total
Crash or fire reportedReports in this category whose submitter recorded that a crash or a fire occurred. The reporter's own answer on the NHTSA form, not a verified finding.
0
Injuries or deaths reportedTotals the submitters entered on their own reports in this category. Not verified by NHTSA and not a casualty statistic.
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Reports naming suspension components — springs, struts, shocks, control arms and related hardware. Every record below is an owner-reported complaint about the 2001 Nissan Maxima submitted to NHTSA — not a confirmed defect, not a recall and not a manufacturer bulletin. 24 reports on file name it.

Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.

Owner reports naming suspension

Shown in the owner’s own words, exactly as filed

Fuel systemSteeringSuspension
Filed Oct 16, 2022

Unknown. Recently bought vehicle, it's in great condition other than there is noticeable problems with the front and rear steering and suspension, missing airbags with no sign of being wrecked, windows and window buttons don't work as well as power seat, and a awful gas smell and fume. Inside vehicle after. Pumping gas. Wanting to see about any recalls or defects that can be fixed without out of pocket costs if at all possible . Don't know the vehicles recall or repair history.

NHTSA ID
11489486
Incident
Oct 14, 2022
AirbagsSuspension
Filed Feb 5, 2016

I SEE ON YOUR WEBSITE MY MODEL YEAR 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA WAS RECALLED FOR AIR BAGS. I HAVE NEVER BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A RECALL FOR THE AIR BAGS. ALSO THERE WAS A RECALL ON THE SUSPENSION CONTROL ARM TRANSVERSE LINK PINS. I DON'T EVER REMEMBER SEEING A RECALL FOR THAT EITHER

NHTSA ID
10824588
Incident
Feb 5, 2016
Body & structureEngineSuspension
Filed Feb 5, 2016

THE LOWER RADIATOR SUPPORT BEAM RUSTED OUT CAUSING THE ENGINE SUPPORT TO BRAKE FREE FROM THE BEAM. NOW THE ENTIRE LOWER SUPPORT BEAM NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH COST OF LABOR AND PARTS. THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM ACCORDING TO ALL THE CAR WEBSITES AND THE YOUTUBE VIDEOS SHOWING HOW TO CHANGE OUT THE BEAM. I DO NOT SEE ANY RECALLS FOR THIS. FOR AS MANY PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECALLED. PEOPLE WERE HAVING THIS PROBLEM 5 YRS AGO ACCORDING TO THE VIDEOS AND REPORTS. ACCORDING TO THE BODY SHOP THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM AND THEY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THIS TYPE OF CORROSION ISSUES WITH THIS NISSAN MODEL AND YEAR. ACCORDING TO WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD A VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT CAN OCCUR WHILE DRIVING THIS VEHICLE IF THE BEAM BREAKS WHILE IN MOTION AT HIGH SPEED. THERE ARE STILL A LARGE NUMBER OF THIS YEAR AND MAKE ON THE STREET AND NO WARNINGS HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC.

NHTSA ID
10824586
Incident
Jan 25, 2016
Mileage
177,000 mi
Suspension
Filed May 10, 2015

MY SUSPENSION HAS TO BE FIX.

NHTSA ID
10715517
Incident
May 10, 2015
Mileage
120,000 mi
AirbagsDriver assistanceSuspension
Filed Apr 2, 2014

I WAS AT A RED LIGHT, WHEN IT TURNED GREEN I PUSHED THE GAS PEDAL AND IT WOULD GO. I HAD TO USE EXTREME FORCE FOR THE CAR TO GO. EVER SINCE FEBRUARY 2014, ITS BEEN HAPPENING EVERY DAY. I'M SCARED THE GAS PEDAL'S GOING TO GET STUCK AND ILL CRASH. WHEN I TURN I HEAR A KNOCKING NOISE COMING FROM THE TIRE/SUSPENSION. *TR

NHTSA ID
10576786
Incident
Feb 1, 2014
Mileage
187,000 mi
EngineSteeringSuspension
Filed Sep 23, 2013

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FRONT CONTROL ARM AND MOTOR MOUNT FAILED. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THE POWER STEERING ASSIST FAILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE FAILURE WAS CONFIRMED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED ABOUT THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 100,000.

NHTSA ID
10544953
Incident
Sep 22, 2013
Mileage
100,000 mi
Suspension
Filed Sep 29, 2010

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHENEVER THE VEHICLE DROVE OVER A BUMP, HE HEARD A KNOCKING SOUND. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A REPAIR SHOP WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE LOWER CONTROL ARM NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT CALLED THE MANUFACTURER AND REFERENCED RECALL 02V146000 (SUSPENSION: FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM) BUT WAS TOLD THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 97,000.

NHTSA ID
10358299
Incident
Sep 26, 2010
Mileage
97,000 mi
Suspension
Filed Jul 7, 2010

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THERE WAS A KNOCKING AND GROUNDING SOUND IN THE STEERING COLUMN. THE DEALER STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT A PART OF NHTSA RECALL CAMPAIGN NUMBER 02V146000, SUSPENSION ALTHOUGH THE FAILURE WAS IDENTICAL TO THE RECALL. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 59000.

NHTSA ID
10341839
Incident
Jun 4, 2010
Mileage
59,000 mi
Suspension
Filed May 1, 2009

THE PIN AT THE END OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION TRANSVERSE LINK (LOWER CONTROL ARM) BROKE OFF WHERE IT IS MOUNTED TO THE FRAME. THIS IS CAUSING A KNOCKING SOUND AND ABNORMAL STEERING. THIS IS RESULTING IN DIFFICULTY CONTROLLING THE VEHICLE. THE RIGHT FRONT WHEEL FELL OFF. I CALLED THE MANUFACTURER REGARDING RECALL NOTICE 02V146000. THEY STATED THAT MY VIN NUMBER IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS RECALL, EVEN THOUGH I AM EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH THE SAME MAKE, MODEL, YEAR OF AUTO. WE HAVE TRIED TO REPLACE THE PIN, BUT HAVE BEEN UNSUCCESSFUL. *TR

NHTSA ID
10267435
Incident
Apr 10, 2009
Mileage
88,722 mi
Suspension
Filed Apr 17, 2009

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. WHILE DRIVING 5 MPH, THE CONTACT HEARD A KNOCKING SOUND COMING FROM THE VEHICLE. HE STATED THAT THE STEERING VEERS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT REPEATEDLY DURING BRAKING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A SUSPENSION SHOP AND THE MECHANIC STATED THAT THE LOWER CONTROL ARM FAILED. THE MECHANIC MENTIONED HEARING ABOUT A RECALL AND ADVISED THE CONTACT TO HAVE THE VEHICLE INSPECTED. THE DEALER STATED THAT THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 02V146000 (SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER ARM). THE VEHICLE WILL BE REPAIRED BECAUSE THE CONTACT FEELS IT IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 105,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 108,000.

NHTSA ID
10265732
Incident
Mar 4, 2009
Mileage
105,000 mi
Suspension
Filed Nov 7, 2008

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 45 MPH, THE CONTACT HEARD A SQUEAKING SOUND COMING FROM THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE THEN BEGAN VEERING TO THE RIGHT. A MONTH LATER, THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A LOCAL REPAIR SHOP DUE TO A FLAT TIRE ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE. THE TIRE WAS REPLACED. WITHIN THE SAME MONTH, THE VEHICLE WAS RETURNED TO THE REPAIR SHOP DUE TO THE TIRE AND ALIGNMENT. THE MECHANIC STATED THAT THE TRANSVERSE LINK WAS DEFECTIVE IN THE FRONT SUSPENSION, WHICH CAUSED THE VEHICLE TO LEAN TO THE RIGHT. THE MECHANIC FURTHER STATED THAT THERE WAS A RECALL RELATING TO THIS FAILURE. THE DEALER AND MANUFACTURER WERE NOTIFIED AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN A RECALL. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 137,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 127,000. UPDATED 01/06/09. *LJ UPDATED 01/06/09. *JB

NHTSA ID
10247957
Incident
Sep 18, 2008
Mileage
127,000 mi
BrakesSuspension
Filed Feb 25, 2008

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE CONTACT HEARD A CONSTANT KNOCKING SOUND COMING FROM THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER AND THEY STATED THAT THE BRAKES WERE THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE. THEY TEST DROVE THE VEHICLE AND DIAGNOSED IT AS UNSAFE TO DRIVE. THE DEALER CLAIMED TO HAVE REPAIRED THE VEHICLE; HOWEVER, THE NOISE RECURRED AND THE CONTACT ALSO BEGAN EXPERIENCING STEERING FAILURE. THE DEALER STATED THAT THE RECENT FAILURE WAS DUE TO THE LOWER ARM SUSPENSION. SHE FOUND A RECALL REGARDING THE SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER ARM, BUT NISSAN STATED THAT HER VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED. THE CONTACT BELIEVES THAT HER VIN SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE RECALL NUMBER WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 125,000.

NHTSA ID
10219040
Incident
Feb 1, 2006
Mileage
100,000 mi
Suspension
Filed May 21, 2007

HAVE A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA AND THE PIN ON THE FRONT LOWER CONTROL ARM BROKE AND HAD TO BE REPLACED AT AROUND 75,000 MILES. THERE IS A RECALL FOR THIS PART, BUT MY CAR WAS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR SOME REASON. THIS PART, IF DEFECTIVE, REPRESENTS A SERIOUS SAFETY CONCERN AND I AM VERY SUSPICIOUS AS TO THE REASONS WHY THE RECALL DID NOT APPLY TO MY VEHICLE'S VIN. THE LOSS OF CONTROLL WAS EXTREMELY NOTICABLE AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE BREAKING AND CAUSING A SERIOUS ACCIDENT.

NHTSA ID
10191308
Incident
Oct 10, 2006
Mileage
77,700 mi
Suspension
Filed May 22, 2006

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING ON ROUGH SURFACES 15 TO 40 MPH THE VEHICLE'S STEERING WAS UNSTABLE. THE STEERING WHEEL WOBBLED AND THERE WAS A KNOCKING SOUND HEARD COMING FROM THE SUSPENSION. THE VEHICLE HESITATED WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED. THE PROBLEMS PROGRESSIVELY WORSENED. THERE IS NHTSA RECALL # 02V146000, REGARDING THE FRONT CONTROL ARM; LOWER ARM. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL DUE TO THE VIN. UPDATED 06/07/2006. *AK

NHTSA ID
10158024
Incident
May 22, 2006
Mileage
52,500 mi
Suspension
Filed Feb 16, 2006

FRONT WHEEL BEARING WENT WRONG AFTER LESS THAN 55K MILES. *NM

NHTSA ID
10150443
Incident
Feb 3, 2005
Suspension
Filed Nov 28, 2005

MY CONTROL ARM ON MY '01 MAXIMA BROKE. ALTHOUGH THERE IS A RECALL FOR THIS YEAR, MY VIN # ISN'T INCLUDED SO NISSAN WON'T FIX. SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A COMON PROBLEM FOR THIS CAR. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW NISSAN CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHICH VEHICLES THIS RECALL AFFECTS IF MISTAKES WERE MADE. THANKFULLY I WASN'T ON A FREEWAY AT THE TIME. IF YOU HAVE HAD SAME PROBLEM, MY CONTACT IS [email protected]. *NM

NHTSA ID
10143825
Incident
Nov 27, 2005
Mileage
62,560 mi
Suspension
Filed Jun 1, 2005

I HAVE A 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA SE 20TH ANNIV. [XXX] AND RECENTLY (ABOUT 2-3 MONTHS AGO) I STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY FRONT SUSPENSION - WHENEVER I GO OVER BUMPS OR ANY SORT OF ROAD CRACKS, I HEAR THE BANGING (KNOCKING) SOUND IN MY FRONT SUSPENSION ON BOTH SIDES AND THE STEERING (HANDLING) HAS BECOME REALLY SLOPPY. THIS WEEK I WAS ABOUT TO TAKE THE CAR TO THE MECHANIC BUT I ACCIDENTALLY CAME ACROSS SOME INFORMATION ON THE INTERNET REGARDING THE SAME PROBLEM WITH OVER 90,000 2001-2002 MAXIMAS THAT HAVE BEEN RECALLED BY NISSAN FOR FREE FIXING. TO BE EXACT THE SAFETY NHTSA RECALL NUMBER IS 02V146 AND THE DESCRIPTION IS "THE PIN AT THE END OF THE FRONT SUSPENSION TRANSVERSE LINK (LOWER CONTROL ARM) COULD BREAK WHERE IT IS MOUNTED TO THE FRAME, CAUSING A KNOCKING SOUND AND ABNORMAL STEERING, RESULTING IN DIFFICULTY CONTROLLING THE VEHICLE AND INCREASING THE RISK OF CRASH. DEALERS SHOULD REPLACE THE TRANSVERSE LINKS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT SIDES WITH NEW ONES. OWNERS WHO DO NOT RECEIVE THE FREE REMEDY WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME SHOULD CONTACT NISSAN." ANYWAYS, THIS MORNING I CALLED NISSAN CANADA AND WAS TOLD THAT MY CAR WAS NOT RECALLED, BECAUSE APPARENTLY WHEN THEY BEGAN RECALLING ON JUNE 24, 2002, THEY DETERMINED THE MANUFACTURING DATE RANGE FROM JUNE 2001 TO JANUARY 2002. MY CAR WAS MANUFACTURED IN OCTOBER 2000; HOWEVER IF IT HAS BEEN A SAFETY ISSUE FOR OVER 90,000 SAME VEHICLES - HOW ACCURATE THEIR DECISION IS??? ALL I WANT IS TO FEEL SAFE DRIVING MY CAR BUT IN MY CASE NISSAN DO NOT WISH TO COOPERATE. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO HELP ME AND TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE. THE BEST WAY TO CONTACT ME IS E-MAIL: [XXX] OR CELL [XXX] OR [XXX]. PLEASE LET ME KNOW, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO PROCESS AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT TO DRIVE THE CAR KNOWING WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT IT IS A RECALL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ATTENTION! *JS INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)

NHTSA ID
10123749
Incident
Mar 1, 2005
Mileage
300,000 mi
Suspension
Filed Apr 18, 2005

THE DRIVER TOOK THE VEHICLE TO DEALER FOR A SUSPENSION PROBLEM. DRIVER NOTICED WHILE DRIVING VEHICLE SHOOK. THE DRIVER WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF VEHICLE, AND DROVE TO THE DEALER FOR INSPECTION. THE MECHANIC DETERMINED THAT A PART FOR SUSPENSION NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. . *AK THE DEFECTIVE LOWER CONTROL ARM PART HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED YET. ALL CONTACT WITH NISSAN CORP PERTAINING TO THIS MATTER HAS BEEN IGNORED. *BF *NM

NHTSA ID
10109340
Incident
Jan 31, 2005
Mileage
33,077 mi
Suspension
Filed Apr 5, 2005

WHILE DRIVING AT ANY SPEED THE STEERING WOULD BE HARD TO STEER. RECALL 02V146000 CONCERNING FRONT SUSPENSION ARM WAS ISSUED. DEALERSHIP WOULD NOT REPAIR FREE OF CHARGE BECAUSE THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED. *AK

NHTSA ID
10117443
Incident
Feb 9, 2005
Mileage
32,000 mi
Exterior lightingSuspension
Filed Apr 4, 2005

LOUD KNOCKING UNDER FRONT OF THE CAR, I REPLACED THE BEARINGS AND NOISE STOPPED FOR A WHILE. THE KNOCKING HAS COME BACK AND THE STEERING WHEEL WILL BE HARD TO MOVE AND SOMETIME JERKS TO THE SIDE. ALSO THE WHOLE TAIL LIGHT GOES OUT, I HAVE CHANGED THE LIGHT BULBS FOUR TIMES ALREADY WITHIN A MONTH.*AK

NHTSA ID
10116373
Incident
Feb 28, 2005
Other / unspecifiedSuspension
Filed Jun 16, 2004

I BELIEVE THE RIGHT FRONT STRUT I PURCHASED FOR MY 2001 NISSAN MAXIMA IS BEING INCORRECTLY MANUFACTURED BY KYB AMERICA, LLC (SUBSIDIARY OF KAYABA INDUSTRY COMPANIES). PROPER INSTALLATION OF THE ABS LINE AND THE MAIN BRAKE LINE CAN NOT BE ACHIEVED DUE TO REASONS DOCUMENTED IN THE EXCERPT OF CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MYSELF TO KYB AMERICA BELOW. THIS MONTH I HAVE BEGUN TO NOTICE SOME DANGEROUS WEARING ON MY BRAKE LINE CAUSED BY IMPROPER MANUFACTURING/INSTALLATION. KYB HAS ONLY RESPONDED TO MY INITIAL FORM FILLED OUT ONLINE WITH A GENERIC AUTO RESPONDER EMAIL LISTING THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. THE PICTURE I REFERENCEBELOW IS AVAILABLE AT THE WEB ADDRESS: HTTP://WWW.ASTUTEINNOVATIONS.COM/STRUT.HTM THE FOLLOWING IS FROM AN EMAIL I SENT ON APRIL 15, 2004: "THE REASONS I THINK IT MAY BE MANUFACTURED WRONG ARE SHOWN ON THE PICTURE, HERE IS THE MAIN POINTS. "I CAN'T GET THE RETAINER CLIP FOR THE BRAKE LINE ONTO THE KYB STRUT BECAUSE OF A BENT LIP. THE BENT LIP IN THE PICTURE IS REFERRING TO THE OVERALL SHAPE OF THE METAL NOT THE ROUNDED TOP EDGE. "THE REAR ABS SENSOR MOUNT IS THE SAME AS THE NISSAN STRUT BUT THE FRONT SENSOR MOUNT HAS A MOUNT THAT OPENS FACING DOWN. THIS FORCES THE ABS SENSOR TO TAKE A SHARP TURN DOWN IN ORDER TO GET TO THE OPENING OF THE KYB MOUNT. I THINK I MENTIONED THAT MY ABS LIGHT CAME ON BUT IT IS NOW OFF. THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN FOR ME EVEN THOUGH I'M FAIRLY SURE THE ABS SYSTEM IS FINE. I ALSO HAD TO ZIP TIE THE BRAKE LINE TO THE KYB MOUNT BECAUSE OF THE RETAINER CLIP ISSUE & THIS ALSO SCARES ME BECAUSE IF THE ZIP TIES FAIL THEN MY BREAK LINE WOULD END UP DANGLING LOOSELY AND MIGHT GET DAMAGED AS A RESULT (I CHECK THE ZIP TIES EVERY TIME BEFORE I DRIVE THE VEHICLE)." THANK YOU CHUCK CHRISTIANSEN. *AK

NHTSA ID
10078302
Incident
Apr 4, 2004
Body & structureElectricalSuspension
Filed Dec 12, 2003

VEHICLE WASN'T PART OF THE RECALL REGARDING THE SUSPENSION DUE TO THE VIN, BUT EXPERIENCED THE PROBLEM STATED ON THE RECALL. *LA THE VEHICLE HAD TO GET A REALIGNMENT, THE BOTTOM COVER WAS LOOSE AND THE VEHICLE CONSTANTLY PULLED TO THE RIGHT/LEFT AND THERE WAS AN ALTERNATOR PROBLEM WHERE THE BATTERY DID NOT CHARGE. THE CONSUMER REQUESTED ASSISTANCE WITH GETTING THE VEHICLE FULLY CHECKED SINCE THE PROBLEMS ENCOUNTERED OCCURRED DURING THE WARRANTY PERIOD. RECALL#02V146000. *SC *JB

NHTSA ID
10051667
Mileage
14,125 mi
Other / unspecifiedSuspension
Filed Dec 4, 2002

VEHICLE HAS HAD BROKEN STRUTS, SPRING REALIGNMENT, WHEEL BEARINGS AND HUB ASSEMBLY.

NHTSA ID
568468
Suspension
Filed Feb 14, 2002

REAR SUSPENSION IS NOT DESIGNED TO ACCOMDATE 4 ADULT PASSENGERS. TRUNK WAS EMPTY WITH FOUR PASSENGERS AND REAR SUSPENSION WOULD BOTTOM OUT. DEALER NOTIFIED, UNHELPFUL, AND MOST LIKELY STALLING UNTIL THE WARRANTY EXPIRES.*AK

NHTSA ID
758234

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