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2008 Ic Bus Ce

Recalls, owner-reported complaints, investigations and safety data

Data refreshed

Owner complaintsComplaints are reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a complaint does not establish that a defect exists. Volume is influenced by how many of a vehicle were sold, how long it has been on the road, and how much attention an issue has received.
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Latest Mar 5, 2012
Safety recallsA safety recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle has a safety-related defect or does not comply with a federal motor vehicle safety standard. Recall repairs are free. Whether a specific vehicle is covered depends on its VIN — a recall listed for a model year does not necessarily apply to every vehicle of that year.
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Latest Dec 23, 2015
InvestigationsNHTSA opens an investigation to examine whether a safety defect may exist. An open investigation is not a determination that a defect exists, and many investigations close without a recall. Investigations can, however, lead to one.
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Crash or fire reportedComplaints whose submitter recorded that a crash or a fire occurred. These are the reporter's own answers on the NHTSA form, not verified findings.
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Overview

Our database contains 4 NHTSA owner-reported complaints for the 2008 Ic Bus Ce, most frequently naming the body & structure and engine categories. 13 safety recalls have been issued covering this model year; 1 NHTSA investigation names it; and 129 manufacturer communications are on file.

Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.

What owners report

Complaints grouped by the component NHTSA recorded

  • Body & structure250.0%
  • Engine250.0%

Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.

Safety recalls

13 campaigns cover this model year

View all 13

Recalls apply to specific vehicles, not to every vehicle of a model year. Check your VIN with NHTSA or your manufacturer's dealer to confirm whether a recall affects your vehicle.

Check a VIN on NHTSA.gov
15V870000

EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE/MOBILITY

Dec 23, 2015
68 units potentially affected
The defect: Navistar, Inc. is recalling certain model year 2007-2015 IC CE transit buses, 2008-2011 IC FE transit buses and 2009-2013 IC RE transit buses equipped with certain model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, and S5510 wheelchair lifts by Ricon. The affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position.
The risk: If the bearings move out of position, the stowed platform may have excessive movement resulting in failure of the platform mounting. This failure could cause the wheel chair lift platform to fall out of the vehicle when the doors are opened, increasing the risk of injury for the lift operator.
The remedy: Navistar will notify the purchasers of the lifts, and dealers will inspect the link arms for damage or for displaced bearings. The platform will be inspected for cracks. Any damaged parts will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began on February 19, 2016. Owners may contact Navistar customer service at 1-800-448-7825. Note: These buses and wheelchair lifts were subject to a similar recall in 2014. All vehicles that received that recall remedy are still affected by this recall as well.
Navistar, Inc.View on NHTSA.gov
15V868000

EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE/MOBILITY

Dec 22, 2015
4,784 units potentially affected
The defect: Navistar, Inc. is recalling certain model year 2007-2015 IC BE and CE school buses, 2013-2015 IC AE school buses, 2007-2011 IC FE school buses, and 2007-2014 IC RE school buses equipped with certain model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, and S5510 wheelchair lifts by Ricon. The affected lifts are equipped with folding link arms that may have pivot holes that are too big, allowing the bearings to move out of position.
The risk: If the bearings move out of position, the stowed platform may have excessive movement resulting in failure of the platform mounting. This failure could cause the wheel chair lift platform to fall out of the vehicle when the doors are opened, increasing the risk of injury for the lift operator.
The remedy: Navistar will notify the purchasers of the lifts, and dealers will inspect the link arms for damage or for displaced bearings. The platform will be inspected for cracks. Any damaged parts will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began on February 19, 2016. Owners may contact Navistar customer service at 1-800-448-7825. Note: These buses and wheelchair lifts were subject to a similar recall in 2014. All vehicles that received that recall remedy are still affected by this recall as well.
Navistar, Inc.View on NHTSA.gov
14V692000

EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE/MOBILITY

Nov 3, 2014
4,784 units potentially affected
The defect: Navistar, Inc. (Navistar) is recalling certain model year 2013-2015 IC AE, 2007-2015 IC BE, CE, 2007-2011 IC FE, and 2007-2014 IC RE school buses equipped with certain model S2005, S2010, S5005, S5010, S5505, and S5510 wheelchair lifts manufactured by Ricon Corporation after January 1, 2006. The platform side plate of the affected wheelchair lifts may crack.
The risk: If the platform side plates crack, the lift platform can separate from the lift and come to rest against the vehicle's lift door. When the doors are opened, the platform may fall out, increasing the risk of injury to the lift operator.
The remedy: Navistar will notify owners to take buses to a Ricon dealer or service center who will install supplemental platform support bumpers. Any platform that has already started cracking will be replaced, free of charge. The recall began on January 29, 2015. Owners may contact Navistar customer service at 1-331-332-1590 or Ricon customer service at 1-800-322-2884. Navistar's number for this recall is 14518.
Navistar, Inc.Manufacturer number 14518View on NHTSA.gov

Safety investigations

NHTSA inquiries naming this vehicle. An investigation is not a finding of a defect.

PE08034ClosedPreliminary Evaluation

SCHOOL BUS STALLING

Opened May 9, 2008
Closed Aug 28, 2008

THIS PE WAS OPENED AFTER ODI BECAME AWARE OF 7 EVENTS ON SCHOOL BUSES WHERE THE FUSE FOR THE ECMOVERHEATED AND BURNED THE FUSE HOLDER AND/OR FUSE HOLDER TERMINALS.ONCE OVERHEATING OF THE FUSE HOLDER OCCURS, THE FUSE BLADES WOULD NO LONGERBE SECURED IN THE PLASTIC HOLDER, THUS INTERRUPTING THE ELECTRICAL FLOW.THE COMPLAINTS CENTERED AROUNDEITHER A NO-START, HARD START, ERRATIC ENGINE PERFORMANCE OR ENGINE STALLING. ODI WAS ALSO AWARE OF REPORTED BATTERY BOX FIRES. THEPE WAS OPENED TO EXAMINE THE SAFETY SIGNIFICANCE AND GAIN A TECHNICAL UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROBLEM.AFTER DISCUSSIONS WITH ODI AND FURTHER REVIEW OF FIELD INCIDENTS, IC DECIDED THE PROPER WAY TO HANDLE THIS ISSUE WAS TO CONDUCT A SAFETY RECALL DURING WHICH THEY WILLREPLACE THE FUSE HOLDERS AND THE POWER ELECTRICAL CONNECTOR ON THE AFFECTED VEHICLES.THIS RECALL ACTION RESOLVES THE ISSUES RAISED BY THIS INVESTIGATION. THEREFORE, THIS INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED.

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING:FUSES AND CIRCUIT BREAKERSLed to recall 08V353000

Recent owner complaints

Reports submitted to NHTSA, shown in the owner's own words

Engine
Filed Mar 5, 2012

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 IC CE300 INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL BUS. WHILE TRAVELING 10 MPH, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY STALLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS DIAGNOSED BY THE CONTACT WHERE HE OBSERVED THAT THE OIL LINE WAS SPLIT, CAUSING HOT ENGINE OIL TO SPRAY ONTO THE ENGINE. THE OIL LINES WERE REPLACED BY THE CONTACT. THE CURRENT AND THE FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 56,690. AN ADDITIONAL FAILURE ON A SISTER BUS (MILEAGE 47261) ON MARCH 28, 2011. I KNOW OF ANOTHER DISTRICT NEARBY THAT HAS HAD THIS PROBLEM ALSO.

NHTSA ID
10450319
Incident
Mar 2, 2012
Mileage
56,690 mi
Engine
Filed Nov 2, 2011

AS YOU ARE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY THE MIL LAMP (ENGINE EMISSIONS CONTROL MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LAMP) COMES ON AND THE BUS WILL GO TO IDLE AND YOU CAN NOT ACCELERATE. YOU MUST STOP SHUT THE ENGINE KEY OFF AND RESTART AND THE LIGHT GOES OFF AND THE BUS RUNS FINE UNTIL THE MIL LIGHT COMES ON AGAIN. THIS IS INTERMITTENT. SOME TIMES IT DOESN'T DO IT AT ALL AND SOME TIMES IT WILL COME ON ONE TO FOUR TIMES ON A 15 MILE RUN. *TR

NHTSA ID
10433900
Incident
Oct 3, 2011
Mileage
81,117 mi
Body & structure
Filed Sep 3, 2009

WE HAVE HAD 4 2008 MODEL IC 77 CAPACITY SCHOOL BUSES THAT THE ENTRANCE DOOR HAS BROKEN AND FALLEN OFF OF THE BUS. IN ALL 4 CASES THE DOOR FRAME BROKE AT THE UPPER HINGE PIVOT POINT AND ALLOWED THE DOOR TO BECOME DETACHED FROM THE VEHICLE. THE FRACTURES IN THE METAL FRAME LOOK EXTREMELY SIMILAR IN ALL 4 CASES. THEE FIRST INCIDENT WAS IN OCTOBER 2008, THE LATEST INCIDENT WAS LAST WEEK. *TR

NHTSA ID
10282731
Incident
Nov 1, 2008
Mileage
10,000 mi
Body & structure
Filed Dec 9, 2008

I HAVE A SERIES OF 2008 CONVENTIONAL IC SCHOOL BUSES (21 BUSES) THAT WERE PURCHASED NEW IN JULY 2008. SINCE THE BEG. OF THE SCH. YR, (AUG. 20TH) WE HAVE HAD 5 ENTRANCE (EMERGENCY) DOORS SHEAR OFF AT THE TOP OF THE DOOR AND FALL OUTWARD, BEING HELD SOLELY BY THE BOTTOM PIN. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE. IF THE BOTTOM PIN WERE TO GIVE WAY ALSO...THE DOOR WOULD FALL ON THE CHILDREN THAT ARE LOADING OR UNLOADING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THESE DOORS ARE DEFECTIVE AND THAT THERE IS NO PLAN TO RECALL. NO ONE KILLED OR INJURED...YET SO THE DEALER SAYS THAT THEY ARE JUST REPLACING THEM AS THEY BREAK OFF. IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE WORKS TO RECALL THESE BUSES BEFORE ONE OF THESE DOORS FALLS ONTO A SMALL CHILD? I HAVE SUBMITTED THE INFO. FOR THE FIRST VEHICLE HAD THE PROBLEM. IF NEED BE I WILL SUBMIT FOR THE OTHER 4 VEHICLES. *TR

NHTSA ID
10251155
Incident
Sep 22, 2008

Manufacturer communications

A bulletin sent by a manufacturer to its dealers. Not a recall, and repairs are not necessarily free.

IK0400037

SERVICE BRAKES, AIR

This document is to guide users to eliminate brake pedal rattle noise.

IK0800351

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

J1939 Data Link Source Address Information

IK0300010

STEERING; SUSPENSION

Diagnosis of chassis wander complaints.

IK0400040

SERVICE BRAKES

General Wheel Speed Sensor Troubleshooting

IK2200109

SEATS

Bus seat back foam inspection guidelines

IK2600069

ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING

How to request a horsepower quote; all International and Cummins engines

Manufacturers file copies of the bulletins they send to dealers with NHTSA. These often describe diagnostic or repair procedures for a known condition. They are not recalls: repairs described in a bulletin are usually only free if the vehicle is still under warranty or the manufacturer has extended coverage.

Compare model years

Complaint and recall counts across every year of this model

Ic Bus Ce by model year
YearComplaintsRecallsInvestigationsIssue Index
2023060—
2022060—
2021060—
2020050—
2019080—
2018070—
2017040—
2016030—
2015060—
2014150—
2013150—
20121220—
20110262—
20103150—
20090150—
2008Viewing4131—
200711143—
2006000—
2005000—
2004000—
2003000—
2002000—
2001000—

Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers. Older model years have had longer for reports to accumulate.