STRUCTURE:BODY:DOOR; VISIBILITY:GLASS, SIDE/REAR
2017 Mci D4505
Recalls, owner-reported complaints, investigations and safety data
Data refreshed
Overview
Our database contains 1 NHTSA owner-reported complaint for the 2017 Mci D4505. 5 safety recalls have been issued covering this model year; 1 NHTSA investigation names it; and 21 manufacturer communications are on file.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
Complaint activity over time
When owners filed reports about this model year
Not enough dated records to plot a meaningful trend — 1 month of data.
Safety recalls
5 campaigns cover this model year
Recalls apply to specific vehicles, not to every vehicle of a model year. Check your VIN with NHTSA or your manufacturer's dealer to confirm whether a recall affects your vehicle.
Check a VIN on NHTSA.govEQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE/MOBILITY:WHEELCHAIR LIFT/RAMP
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
Safety investigations
NHTSA inquiries naming this vehicle. An investigation is not a finding of a defect.
Tailpipe seperation resulting in fire
During the review of Motor Coach Industries (MCI) Early Warning Reporting (EWR) 2016 Q4 data, field reports were identified that described fires on 2 buses from different regions of the country.These fires were alleged to have occurred as a result of a loose clamp allowing the tailpipe to separate from the exhaust after treatment assembly.During exhaust after treatment regeneration high temperature gases were directed at the plastic rear bumper.Prior to the fires, there were no indications (such as soot trails) that the clamps were loose.When contacted, the fleet maintenance manager stated all maintenance schedules and DOT inspections had been performed without a failure citation of the exhaust systems. MCI addressed the issue by installing additional brackets to the pipe on all the other buses in the fleet ensuring the tailpipe stayed intact should the clamp lose torque.In correspondence with another fleet using the same style bus, the fleet safety manager described having loose clamps resulting in fires.The MCI fix for the second fleet was to install a shield at the rear bumper to deflect the high temperature exhaust gases in the event of the tailpipe separated from the exhaust after treatment system.This fix was different from the first fleet.During review of communications submitted in March 2017, the Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) identified MCI Service Bulletin No. 309 regarding a maintenance procedure of the exhaust system Torca Accuseal clamp.This bulletin instructed that a new clamp must be utilized after any service or maintenance is performed in which the existing clamp was loosened or removed.ODI requested further information on this bulletin and received warranty claims showing loose tailpipes.MCI has taken the position that fires at the clamp location were due to improper maintenance by the fleets.After analysis of data, provided by MCI to ODI in response to an information request letter, ODI found there was not an increasing number (claim rate of 1.1%) of failures and fires even with portions of the fleet having over seven years in service.The 4 fires identified were from 2 fleets.ODI contacted the fleets with fire incidents and was informed that one of the two buses involved in the fire incidents was sold in 2016 and other fleet does not have maintenance records since they only keep records for one year.ODI is closing the investigation as no actionable trend has been identified.This investigation is closed. Further use of agency resources does not appear to be warranted. The closing of this investigation does not constitute a finding by NHTSA that a safety-related defect does not exist. The agency reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.
Recent owner complaints
Reports submitted to NHTSA, shown in the owner's own words
WHILE CHANGING LANES AT FREEWAY SPEED TO GO AROUND A SLOW MOVING VEHICLE, THE "COLLISION AVOIDANCE SYSTEM" SLAMMED ON THE BRAKES. I WAS LUCKY TO NOT LOSE CONTROL OF THE BUS! THESE SYSTEMS THAT SENSE SUPPOSED DANGER AND TRY TO DO THE DRIVING FOR YOU ARE EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS AND NEED TO BE BANNED!
- NHTSA ID
- 10991515
- Incident
- May 3, 2017
- Mileage
- 34,000 mi
Manufacturer communications
A bulletin sent by a manufacturer to its dealers. Not a recall, and repairs are not necessarily free.
STEERING; SUSPENSION
This TSIB is to inform customers the recommended steering axle cleaning/greasing instructions to prevent damage on axle components due to displacement of grease from the bearings, lubrication reduction and accelerate wear for coaches with independent front suspension.
ENGINE
Information to owners showing the proper procedure for checking the oil level in a BITZER HVAC compressor.
SEATS
Technical Service Information Bulletin describing the replacement of seating backrest attachment hardware with the addition of a mechanical lock nut on specifically equipped buses manufactured prior to model year 2020.
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM; EQUIPMENT
This Technical Instruction is a description of the inspections and cleaning procedures being recommended by MCI due to the parts shortages which are impacting the repair inspections associated with NHTSA Recall 21V-748. These are the same instructions as outlined in the previously submitted Technical Services Information Bulletin TSIB 22-01 and Technical Instruction ITS60421, except they are specific to those customers operating in extremely corrosive environments.
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM; EQUIPMENT
This Instruction to Service (ITS) is a description of the inspections being recommedned by MCI due to the parts shortages which are impacting the repair instructions associated with NHTSA Recall 21V-748. These are the same instructions as outlined in the previously submitted Technical Service Information Bulletin TSIB 22-01.
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM; EQUIPMENT
This is an upgrade to Technical Service Information Bulletin TSIB 21-10 issued in January of 2022 which is specific to buses operating in severe duty and or corrosive environments. These bulletins have been issued to recommend interim inspection procedures required every 6000 miles on specifically equipped motor coaches due to global parts shortages and the subsequent delay in available parts to conduct the corrective actions associated with NHTSA Recall 21V-748.
Manufacturers file copies of the bulletins they send to dealers with NHTSA. These often describe diagnostic or repair procedures for a known condition. They are not recalls: repairs described in a bulletin are usually only free if the vehicle is still under warranty or the manufacturer has extended coverage.
Compare model years
Complaint and recall counts across every year of this model
Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers. Older model years have had longer for reports to accumulate.