1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager Brakes Problems

ABS BRAKE SYSTEM HAS SPRUNG A LEAK AT THE PISTON ASSEMBLY INPUT SHAFT SEAL. THE LIFE TIME WARRANTEE SHOULD APPLY TO THIS PROBLEM. THE DEALER I AM WORKING WITH INFORMS ME THE REPAIR PARTS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND ARE REQUESTING DIAGNOSTIC FEES UP FRONT. I HAVE CONFIRMED 3 PART NUMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR A DOZEN OTHER CHRYSLER VEHICLES TO BE THE SAME PHYSICAL PART IN THOSE 3 AND THE SAME PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH. ALL REFERENCE FOR THE PLYMOUTH PART NUMBER SHOW NO LONGER AVAILABLE. THEY ARE USING MULTIPLE PART NUMBERS FOR THE SAME PART IN DECEPTIVE WAYS TO AVOID REPAIRS. THE FOLLOWING PART NUMBER IS FOR THE LIST OF CARS BELOW AND IS THE SAME PHYSICAL PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH MOPAR PART # R4683555 - LIST BELOW CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 5-SPEED MANUAL 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSAXLE 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.0L V6 SMPI, 3-SPD. AUTOMATIC 31TH 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.0L V6 SMPI, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 2.5L I4 EFI, 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 2.5L I4 EFI, 5-SPEED MANUAL 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.0L V6 SMPI, 3-SPD. AUTOMATIC 31TH 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.0L V6 SMPI, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 I HAVE 2 OTHER PART NUMBERS THAT USE THIS SAME LIST AND REFERENCE THE SAME DIAGRAM NUMBERS. PLEASE ADVISE. I WOULD LIKE TO REPAIR THIS VEHICLE. THANK YOU, [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *CC *TR

NHTSA ID

11139482

Incident

Aug 1, 2018

ABS HYDRAULIC ACCUATOR PUMP FAILED AGAIN. WAS REPAIRED FOR FREE IN 1999. I PAID FOR THE ACCUMALOTOR, WHICH FAILS DUE TO THE LEAKY BRAKE PUMP. CHRYSLER IS DELAYING OR DENYING REPAIR ON LIFETIME WARRANTY DUE TO RECALL.

NHTSA ID

10721718

Incident

May 5, 2015

Mileage

180,000 mi

BRAKES HAVE NO POWER ASSIST DUE TO ABS PUMP FAILURE, AS DIAGNOSED BY PUTNAM CHRYSLER ON 3/29/13. DEALER CONTACTED CHRYSLER REGARDING RECALL 685. PART WAS SAID TO BE ON BACK ORDER. OWNER HAS CONTACTED CHRYSLER AND DEALER NUMEROUS TIMES TO NO AVAIL. LATEST REPORT (11/7/13) FROM CHRYSLER IS THAT THE PART WAS SENT TO DEALER AND MESSAGE LEFT FOR OWNER AT SOME UNRECOGNIZED PHONE NUMBER. LATEST REPORT FROM DEALER, ALSO 11/7/13, IS THAT REPAIR HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, WHICH IS NOT CORRECT. DEALER REP WAS TO RESEARCH AND CALL OWNER BACK. NO CALL BACK. *TR

NHTSA ID

10551629

Incident

Mar 29, 2013

Mileage

174,456 mi

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT AS HE WAS BRAKING TO A STOP, THE BRAKE PEDAL ABNORMALLY TRAVELED TO THE FLOORBOARD CAUSING AN INCREASE IN STOPPING DISTANCE. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO STOP THE VEHICLE AS HE CONTINUED TO APPLY THE BRAKES. THE CONTACT REFERENCED NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC: ANTILOCK), STATING THAT THE VEHICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY REPAIRED UNDER THE RECALL BUT THE FAILURE STILL EXISTED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER WHO PERFORMED THE RECALL REPAIRS. THE CONTACT LEFT THE VEHICLE WITH THE DEALER AND STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED CORRECTLY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED WHO ADVISED THAT THEY WOULD GIVE HIM A RETURN CALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 243,067.

NHTSA ID

10475185

Incident

Apr 2, 2012

Mileage

243,067 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

NHTSA ID

10240646

Incident

Jun 10, 2008

Mileage

142,000 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

NHTSA ID

10237365

Incident

Jun 15, 2002

Mileage

100,000 mi

THE ABS SYSTEM FAILED THREE TIMES ON 4/15/08. THE VEHICLE IS A PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER, 1993. I ALMOST HIT A CAR THAT WAS TURNING IN FRONT OF ME. THEN THE ABS AND PARKING BRAKE LIGHTS LIT UP ON THE DASH BOARD. I BARELY MADE IT HOME WITHOUT HITTING ANYTHING AND PARKED MY CAR IN THE GARAGE. WHEN I WENT OUT A FEW MINUTES LATER TO TAKE IT TO A MECHANIC NEARBY, THE BRAKE PEDAL DROPPED WHEN I TURNED THE KEY TO START THE CAR. THE BRAKES WERE MUSHY UNTIL I GOT IT TO THE MECHANIC. HE CONFIRMED THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE ABS SYSTEM AND THAT IT WAS COVERED UNDER THE RECALL. THE BYERS CHRYSLER DEALERSHIP NOW HAS THE CAR AND IS CLAIMING THEY CANNOT REPRODUCE THE PROBLEM AND WILL NOT REPLACE THE ABS UNTIL THEY CAN. I DO NOT WANT TO KILL MYSELF OR ANYONE ELSE WITH A BRAKING SYSTEM THAT MAY FAIL AT ANY TIME. *TR

NHTSA ID

10224870

Incident

Apr 14, 2008

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. APPROXIMATELY TEN YEARS AGO, THE CONTACT RECEIVED A RECALL NOTICE FOR NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK)AND DAIMLER CHRYSLER RECALL NUMBER 685. HE TOOK HIS VEHICLE TO THE DEALER FOR SERVICE, BUT THEY COULD NOT HONOR THE RECALL NOTICE. THEY INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT RECALLS COULD ONLY BE SERVICED WITHIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. ACCORDING TO THE CONTACT, THE RECALL STATED THAT THE CONSUMER COULD GET A FREE REMEDY ANY TIME AFTER RECEIVING THE NOTICE FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. THE SERVICE MANAGER AT THE DEALER AGREED WITH THE CONTACT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT GENERAL MOTORS SHOULD HONOR WHAT IS MENTIONED IN THE RECALL NOTICE. IT WAS NOTICED THAT NHTSA'S RECALL NOTICE SLIGHTLY DIFFERED FROM THE MANUFACTURER'S NOTICE CONCERNING THE SERVICES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT HE CAN PROVIDE A COPY OF THE RECALL NOTICE FROM DAIMLER CHRYSLER. THERE HAD BEEN NO FAILURE TO DATE. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 92,000.

NHTSA ID

10216719

Incident

Jan 1, 1998

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WHILE DRIVING IN REVERSE AT 5 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WOULD NOT DEPRESS, DESPITE USING EXTREME FORCE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FAILURE WAS INTERMITTENT, HOWEVER, THE ABS LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE MECHANIC DIAGNOSED THE VEHICLE AS HAVING ANTILOCK BRAKE FAILURE. THE DEALER STATED THAT HER VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA RECALL NUMBER 96V099000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:ANTILOCK). THE POWERTRAIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 120,000.

NHTSA ID

10200596

Incident

Feb 1, 2006

Mileage

120,000 mi

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DEPRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THERE WAS AN INCREASED STOPPING DISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVEN TO THE DEALER WHO DETERMINED THE DUAL FUNCTION PRESSURE SWITCH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THE DUAL PRESSURE SWITCH WAS APART OF THE ABS AND WAS NOT COVERED UNDER ANY RECALL. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THAT THE PRESSURE SWITCH FAILED BECAUSE THE ABS/PUMP MOTOR HAD FAILED SO MANY TIMES. UPDATED 12/01/06. *JB THE STATED THE ABS MODULE HAD BEEN REPLACED 5 TIMES

NHTSA ID

10171824

Incident

Oct 14, 2006

Mileage

96,000 mi

WHILE DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT ANY SPEED AND APPLYING THE BRAKES, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR WITH NO BRAKE AT ALL RESULTING IN AN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. AS A RESULT, CONSUMER WAS INVOLVED IN A FRONT END COLLISION. DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. PLEASE PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION NOTIFIED. *LA

NHTSA ID

10083293

Incident

Jul 20, 2004

MY ABS LIGHT CAME ON WHEN DRIVING, WITHIN SECONDS, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO BRAKES. THE DEALER FIXED AT NO CHARGE, ALTHOUGH I HAD TO PAY FOR TOWING. TODAY HAS BEEN 2 WEEKS SINCE I'VE HAD THE VEHICLE REPAIRED. AS I WAS TRAVELING DOWN THE FREEWAY WITH MY 4 CHILDREN, THE ABS LIGHT CAME ON AGAIN, AND THE BRAKES WERE GONE AGAIN. WHEN I PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE IN 1999, THE ABS SYSTEM WAS REPLACED ON 3 SEPERATE OCCASIONS FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON. EACH TIME WITH THE GUARANTEE THAT IT WAS FIXED. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO HAVE THIS ISSUE RESOLVED? THE DEATH OF MY CHILDREN AND I? I PURCHASED THIS MINI VAN FOR THE REASON OF SAFETY DUE TO THE FACT THAT I DRIVE WITH MY CHILDREN QUITE A BIT. I AM VERY UNHAPPY WITH THIS ISSUE. TO ADD TO THE DILEMMA, I AM CURRENTLY RAISING MY CHILDREN ALONE DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY HUSBAND IS OVERSEAS AT WAR. WITH THE ADDED STRESS OF MY HUSBAND BEING AWAY, I REALLY FEEL THE BURDEN WITH MY MINI VAN IS EXTEMELY UNCALLED FOR. I CAN NO LONGER DO THE SIMPLE TASKS OF GOING TO THE STORE WITHOUT FEELING FEAR THAT MY VEHICLE WILL ALL OF A SUDDEN NOT STOP. I AM JUST TRYING TO GET BY IN A SAFE MANNER WHILE MY HUSBAND IS AWAY. AND THIS EXPENSIVE VEHICLE MADE BY CHRYSLER/PLYMOUTH HAS FAILED TO DO THIS FOR ME. YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS EXPECTED!

NHTSA ID

10070696

Incident

Aug 15, 2003

Mileage

175,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONER QUIT WORKING, PROBLEM IS EVAPORATOR UNDER DASH. REPAIR TO BE $1200 ESTIMATED. FUEL PUMP FAILED. PAINT BEGAN PEELING AT 40,000 MILES. JUST FINISHED REPAINTING WHOLE VEHICLE AT OWN EXPENSE. BOTH FRONT SEATBELTS WOULD NOT UNROLL AND WERE REPLACED. TRANSMISSION FAILED AT 68,000 MILES, DEALER REPAIRED AT NO CHARGE. ABS NO LONGER WORKS. WHEELS LOCK UP WHEN HARD BRAKING.

NHTSA ID

10069266

Incident

Jan 15, 2003

TOTAL ABS FAILURE TWICE WITHIN THREE WEEK PERIOD. DEALER REPLACED PUMP MOTOR UNDER RECALL WARRANTY FOR FIRST FAILURE, DIAGNOSED DUAL FUNCTION PRESSURE SWITCH FOR SECOND FAILURE. DEALER AND MANUFACTURER REFUSES TO WARRANT PRESSURE SWITCH AS PART OF ABS. PRESSURE SWITCH HAS BEEN REPLACED AT 40,400 MILES ON 3/25/97, REPLACED AGAIN AT 68,327 MILES ON 5/29/01. CURRENT INSTANCE IS THIRD FAILURE OF SWITCH. ON GOING ABS FAILURES OVER LIFE OF CAR.

NHTSA ID

10069009

Incident

Aug 15, 2003

Mileage

74,618 mi

CONSUMER RECEIVED RECALL 96V099000 CONCERNING BRAKES:HYDRAULIC:ANTI-SKID SYSTEM FAILURE. DEALER WANTED TO CHARGE $85.00 TO LOOK AT THE VEHICLE BEFORE DOING RECALL REPAIRS.*AK

NHTSA ID

10052069

I HAVE A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE ABS PUMP AND MOTOR WERE REPLACED (UNDER WARRANTY) WITH A RE-MANUFACTURED UNIT ON 11/05/01 WHEN THE VEHICLE MILEAGE WAS 104,691. THE PUMP JUST FAILED AGAIN, AND WAS REPLACED WITH ANOTHER RE-MANUFACTURED UNIT. THE VEHICLE MILEAGE IS NOW 115,381. I AM CONCERNED THAT CHRYSLER IS INSTALL POOR QUALITY REPAIR PARTS UNDER THE WARRANTY. *LA

NHTSA ID

10047240

Incident

Nov 20, 2003

Mileage

115,381 mi

DRIVER HAD DIFFICULTY PRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL. DEALER FOUND THAT THE VEHICLE WAS WITHIN THE REMEDY SCOPE FOR RECAL 96V099000, AND MADE THE APPROPRIATE REPAIRS. AFTER THE REPAIRS, BRAKE LIGHTS ILLUMINATED, AND THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS STILL HARD TO PUSH. *AK

NHTSA ID

10042221

THE ABS LIGHT AND THE PARK LIGHT ILLUMINATED. ALSO, THE BRAKE PEDAL MUST BE DEPRESSED ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR TO GET THE VEHICLE TO STOP. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT IN THE REMEDY SCOPE FOR RECALL# 96V099000 SUBJECT: BRAKES:HYDRAULIC: ANTI-SKID SYSTEM; ALTHOUGH THE VEHICLE EXPERIENCED THE SAME SYMPTOMS AS THE VEHICLES AFFECTED IN THAT RECALL. *AK *TS *JB

NHTSA ID

10034546

TWO COMPLETE ABS BRAKE FAILURES WITHIN 3 WEEKS. CONTINUOUS ABS BRAKE PROBLEMS OVER THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. RECALL COMPLETED. PROBLEMS PERSIST.

NHTSA ID

10036811

Incident

Aug 24, 2003

Mileage

74,610 mi

I HAD TROUBLE WITH MY ANTI-LOCK BRAKES ON A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. I DOWNLOADED THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE RECALL AND MADE AN APPOINTMENT WITH THE DEALER. ON THE DAY OF THE APPOINTMENT THEY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE OF CHRYSLER THERE WHO STATED, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A RECALL, OUR PARTICULAR VIN NUMBER WAS NOT INCLUDED. THEY ALSO STATED THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHARGE US TO FIX A COMPUTER CHIP THAT WAS NOT WORKING TO TEST THE BRAKING SYSTEM. THIS VEHICLE HAD OVER 100,000 THOUSAND MILES SO WE KNEW NOT ALL OF THE RECALL WOULD APPLY, BUT CERTAIN COMPONENTS HAD A LIFETIME REPLACEMENT WARRANTY. BECAUSE OF THE UP FRONT CHARGES WE WITHDREW THE VEHICLE FROM THE DEALER AND SENT IT TO AN INDEPENDENT GARAGE, WHO IS HAVING TROUBLE FINDING THE USED PARTS. THE DEALER SAID THE INFO. ON THIS WEBSITE ARE JUST SUMMARIES AND NOT ALWAYS CORRECT FOR THE PARTICULAR VEHICLE.*AK

NHTSA ID

10032836

Incident

Jul 1, 2003

WHILE TRAVELING ON THE HIGHWAY AND WITHOUT PRIOR WARNING THE ABS BRAKING LIGHT APPEARED ON THE DASHBOARD. *AK

NHTSA ID

10024774

Incident

Jun 23, 2003

WHILE DRIVING AND WITHOUT WARNING BRAKES FAILED,CAUSING EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCE. DEALER NOTIFIED. *AK

NHTSA ID

10024401

Incident

Jun 17, 2003

CONSUMER BROUGHT VEHICLE IN FOR RECALL REPAIRS, 96V099. MECHANIC INFORMED CONSUMER THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER TOOK CARE OF THE RECALL AND THAT THE PROBLEM CONSUMER WAS EXPERIENCING WAS A SENSOR, WHICH WAS NOT RECALL RELATED. CONSUMER WAS CHARGED FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING AND FEELS THIS IS AN ERROR SINCE NO TESTING WAS AUTHORIZED. CONSUMER REQUESTS REIMBURSEMENT. *JG

NHTSA ID

565556

CONSUMER STATES BRAKE PEDAL IS HARD AND STIFF AND THE ABS AND BRAKE LIGHT STAYS ON. DEALER FOUND PROBLEM WITH HYDRAULIC CONTROL UNIT WHICH IS UNDER RECALL (96V099000). HOWEVER, AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP WOULD NOT HONOR RECALL. CONSUMER HAD TO TAKE VEHICLE TO ANOTHER AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP THAT WAS 200 MILES ROUND TRIP. *TT

NHTSA ID

564494

VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED UNDER RECALL 96 V 099 000. SINCE REPAIR OF VEHICLE BRAKES HAVE FAILED FOUR TIMES, ONE OF WHICH RESULTED IN A COLLISION. WHEN BRAKES WERE APPLIED PEDAL BECAME HARD. VEHICLE WAS SERVICED AT FRESNO CHRYSLER, IN FRESNO CA 559-225-2100. *AK

NHTSA ID

8004154

Incident

Jan 26, 2002