1993 Plymouth Grand Voyager Problems

ABS BRAKE SYSTEM HAS SPRUNG A LEAK AT THE PISTON ASSEMBLY INPUT SHAFT SEAL. THE LIFE TIME WARRANTEE SHOULD APPLY TO THIS PROBLEM. THE DEALER I AM WORKING WITH INFORMS ME THE REPAIR PARTS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AND ARE REQUESTING DIAGNOSTIC FEES UP FRONT. I HAVE CONFIRMED 3 PART NUMBERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR A DOZEN OTHER CHRYSLER VEHICLES TO BE THE SAME PHYSICAL PART IN THOSE 3 AND THE SAME PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH. ALL REFERENCE FOR THE PLYMOUTH PART NUMBER SHOW NO LONGER AVAILABLE. THEY ARE USING MULTIPLE PART NUMBERS FOR THE SAME PART IN DECEPTIVE WAYS TO AVOID REPAIRS. THE FOLLOWING PART NUMBER IS FOR THE LIST OF CARS BELOW AND IS THE SAME PHYSICAL PART FOR MY PLYMOUTH MOPAR PART # R4683555 - LIST BELOW CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, 5-SPEED MANUAL 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 2.5L I4 EFI, CONTINUOUSLY VARIABLE TRANSAXLE 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.0L V6 SMPI, 3-SPD. AUTOMATIC 31TH 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.0L V6 SMPI, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 2.5L I4 EFI, 3-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 2.5L I4 EFI, 5-SPEED MANUAL 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.0L V6 SMPI, 3-SPD. AUTOMATIC 31TH 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.0L V6 SMPI, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 PLYMOUTH TOWN & COUNTRY 3.3L V6 OHV, 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC 1991, 1992, 1993 I HAVE 2 OTHER PART NUMBERS THAT USE THIS SAME LIST AND REFERENCE THE SAME DIAGRAM NUMBERS. PLEASE ADVISE. I WOULD LIKE TO REPAIR THIS VEHICLE. THANK YOU, [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *CC *TR

ABS HYDRAULIC ACCUATOR PUMP FAILED AGAIN. WAS REPAIRED FOR FREE IN 1999. I PAID FOR THE ACCUMALOTOR, WHICH FAILS DUE TO THE LEAKY BRAKE PUMP. CHRYSLER IS DELAYING OR DENYING REPAIR ON LIFETIME WARRANTY DUE TO RECALL.

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

THE DRIVERS SIDE SEAT BELT BUCKLE BECAME UNFASTENED WHILE DRIVING. THERE WAS A RECALL FOR THIS PROBLEM ( RECALL NO.#97V148000 SEAT BELT SYSTEM ) BUT THE VEHICLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBER WAS NOT APART OF THE RECALL. THE MANUFACTURER WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM. *JB *NM

4TH 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER SE TRANSMISSION. NO WARNING BEFORE COMPLETE TRANSMISSION FAILURE. HAS 1ST GEAR TO ABOUT 15 MPH AND THEN SLIPS OUT OF GEAR. NO REVERSE NO NOTHING. VAN IS SITTING IN MY GARAGE WHILE I DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THIS GIANT BOAT ANCHOR. *JB

WHILE DRIVING TRANSMISSION WILL SLIP TO SECOND GEAR ANDJUST STAY STOCK. CONSUMER HAD TO DRIVE OFF ROAD, TURNED OFF ENGINE FOR A COUPLE MINUTES, THEN RESTARTED ENGINE, ANDIT WILL WORK AGAIN.*AK

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

I OWN A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER LE 3.3L V6 THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH STALLING. IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND HAS OCCURRED SEVERAL TIMES WHILE DRIVING ON THE FREEWAY. IT SEEMS TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THE ENGINE HAS REACHED OPERATING TEMPERATURE AND WHILE OF EITHER APPLY THE BRAKES OR SITTING AT A DEAD STOP. SEVERAL MECHANIC SHOPS HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM OR SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE IS. AFTER DOING RESEARCH INTO THIS MATTER, I HAVE FOUND THAT SEVERAL PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER OWNERS HAVE HAD THESE SAME EXACT PROBLEMS. THE FUEL PUMP AND FILTER HAVE BEEN CHANGED AND VARIOUS SENSORS AS WELL. THIS IS A HAZARD NOT ONLY TO MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, BUT TO ALL OTHER DRIVERS THAT MAY BE ON THE ROAD AND AROUND MY VEHICLE WHEN THIS OCCURS. WITH THE NUMBER OF REPORTS THAT I HAVE SEEN, I THINK THAT DAIMLER/CHRYSLER SHOULD CHECK INTO THIS PROBLEM, ISSUE A RECALL, AND FIX THIS PROBLEM BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT OR POSSIBLE KILLED. *JB

AIR CONDITIONER QUIT WORKING, PROBLEM IS EVAPORATOR UNDER DASH. REPAIR TO BE $1200 ESTIMATED. FUEL PUMP FAILED. PAINT BEGAN PEELING AT 40,000 MILES. JUST FINISHED REPAINTING WHOLE VEHICLE AT OWN EXPENSE. BOTH FRONT SEATBELTS WOULD NOT UNROLL AND WERE REPLACED. TRANSMISSION FAILED AT 68,000 MILES, DEALER REPAIRED AT NO CHARGE. ABS NO LONGER WORKS. WHEELS LOCK UP WHEN HARD BRAKING.

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE LIFTGATE HINGE WAS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY. THE LIFTGATE CLOSED WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND REPAIRED. ALSO, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED INTERMITTENTLY ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT APPLIED PRESSURE TO THE BRAKE PEDAL AND EXPERIENCED DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN. THERE WAS ALSO A MALFUNCTION WITH THE SEAT BELT ASSEMBLY BUCKLE. RECENTLY, WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 65 MPH IN THE RAIN, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS STOPPED WORKING WITHOUT WARNING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THAT THE VEHICLE BE TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER. AT THIS TIME, THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 142,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 155,000. UPDATE 10/01/08 *CW THE SET BELT WOULD NOT RETRACT. UPDATED 10/03/08. *JB

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

FUEL RAIL LEAK AT THE CROSSOVER PIPE, GETTING FUEL ON VALVE COVERS, AND CLOSE TO EXHAUST MANIFOLD. FUEL LEAK WILL NOT STOP. CONTACTED CHRYSLER DEALERSHIP, NO KNOWN FIX AVAILABLE. FUEL RAIL DISCONTINUED, NO PARTS AVAILABLE. NO KNOWN RECALL AVAILABLE. POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARD!!

AIR CONDITIONER QUIT WORKING, PROBLEM IS EVAPORATOR UNDER DASH. REPAIR TO BE $1200 ESTIMATED. FUEL PUMP FAILED. PAINT BEGAN PEELING AT 40,000 MILES. JUST FINISHED REPAINTING WHOLE VEHICLE AT OWN EXPENSE. BOTH FRONT SEATBELTS WOULD NOT UNROLL AND WERE REPLACED. TRANSMISSION FAILED AT 68,000 MILES, DEALER REPAIRED AT NO CHARGE. ABS NO LONGER WORKS. WHEELS LOCK UP WHEN HARD BRAKING.

FIRESTONE AFFINITY TOURING TIRE EXPERIENCED BLOWOUT, P205/R15, CLAIM 40-2431-862. *SLC

CONSUMER STATES AIR CONDITIONER IS NOISY. *SLC

FIRESTONE AFFINITY TOURING TIRE EXPERIENCED BLOWOUT, P205/R15, CLAIM 40-2431-862. *SLC

LEFT FRONT TIRE EXPERIENCED TREAD SEPARATION, CAUSING DAMAGE TO VEHICLE, DRIVER AND PASSENGER WERE INJURED, FIRESTONE AFFINITY TOURING S, P205/70R15 95S M+S, DOT VDMO A/B 118, CLAIM 55-S259-389. *SLC

BOUGHT VAN USED AUGUST 1999 WITH 91,000 MILES. VAN NOW HAS 134,000 MILES. TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN REBUILT/REPLACED 3 TIMES [2 REBUILDS - OCTOBER 2000 (COST: ~$1600) AND APRIL 2001 (COST:~$550); REPLACED WITH USED TRANSMISSION AFTER LAST FAILURE APRIL 2003 (COST:$901)]. COMPUTER CONTROLS (SINGLE BOARD ENGINE CONTROLLER - SBEC) WENT BAD WHILE TRAVELING AT NIGHT ON INTERSTATE ON A TRIP - CAUSED CAM SENSOR AND CRANK SENSOR TO GO BAD AS WELL (COST: ~$550). AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SPENT ~$3600 ON A VAN THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR $3700!!????? I AM CONSIDERING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST CHRYSLER NOW.

LEFT FRONT TIRE EXPERIENCED TREAD SEPARATION, CAUSING DAMAGE TO VEHICLE, DRIVER AND PASSENGER WERE INJURED, FIRESTONE AFFINITY TOURING S, P205/70R15 95S M+S, DOT VDMO A/B 118, CLAIM 55-S259-389. *SLC

WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH STEERING WHEEL CAME OFF. NO ACCIDENT. TOWED TO DEALER, WHO REPAIRED IT UNDER RECALL. CONSUMER HAD NOT RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION.*AK

AFTER STARTING VEHICLE TRIED TO TILT STEERING WHEEL AND NOTICED THAT IT HAD LOCKED. CONSUMER WAS NOT ABLE TO MOVE IT UP OR DOWN.*AK THE MECHANISM HAS 3 PARALLEL GEARED BARS, 2 FIXED AND 1 MOVABLE, A STEEL PIN IS INSERTED THROUGH THE 2 FIXED BARS, TILT MECHANISM DEPRESSES CENTER GEARED BAR UNDER STEEL PIN, AS STEERING COLUMN IS ADJUSTED, TILT MECHANISM BECAME LOCKED, DISASSEMBLY FOUND STEEL PIN HAD MOVED TO THE RIGHT, OUT OF THE LEFT BAR AND WEDGED. *SLC

AIR BAG WARNING LIGHT COMES ON AND STAYS ON. *AK

VEHICLE WAS INVOLVED IN A FRONTAL COLLISION OF APPROXMATELY 30-35 MPH, WHICH DRIVER'S AIR BAG INFLATED VERY LITTLE AFTER IMPACT. DEALER AND MANUFACTURER WERE NOT NOTIFIED AT THIS TIME. FEEL FREE TO PROVIDE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION.*AK

SLIDING DOOR LATCH BROKE AND DOOR WAS SHUT. IN CASE OF AN ACCIDENT NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO OPEN THE DOOR. *AK

THE BOLT THAT HOLDS THE DRIVER'S SEAT IN THE UPRIGHT POSITION BROKE, CAUSING THE SEAT TO RECLINE PERMANANTLY. THE SEAT CANNOT BE UPRIGHTED WITHOUT REPLACING THE BOLT. THIS IS THE SECOND PLYMOUTH VOYAGER THAT WE HAVE OWNED THAT HAS HAD THIS SAME DEFECT. *AK

BOUGHT VAN USED AUGUST 1999 WITH 91,000 MILES. VAN NOW HAS 134,000 MILES. TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN REBUILT/REPLACED 3 TIMES [2 REBUILDS - OCTOBER 2000 (COST: ~$1600) AND APRIL 2001 (COST:~$550); REPLACED WITH USED TRANSMISSION AFTER LAST FAILURE APRIL 2003 (COST:$901)]. COMPUTER CONTROLS (SINGLE BOARD ENGINE CONTROLLER - SBEC) WENT BAD WHILE TRAVELING AT NIGHT ON INTERSTATE ON A TRIP - CAUSED CAM SENSOR AND CRANK SENSOR TO GO BAD AS WELL (COST: ~$550). AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE SPENT ~$3600 ON A VAN THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR $3700!!????? I AM CONSIDERING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST CHRYSLER NOW.

AIR CONDITIONER QUIT WORKING, PROBLEM IS EVAPORATOR UNDER DASH. REPAIR TO BE $1200 ESTIMATED. FUEL PUMP FAILED. PAINT BEGAN PEELING AT 40,000 MILES. JUST FINISHED REPAINTING WHOLE VEHICLE AT OWN EXPENSE. BOTH FRONT SEATBELTS WOULD NOT UNROLL AND WERE REPLACED. TRANSMISSION FAILED AT 68,000 MILES, DEALER REPAIRED AT NO CHARGE. ABS NO LONGER WORKS. WHEELS LOCK UP WHEN HARD BRAKING.

CONSUMER STATES AIR CONDITIONER IS NOISY. *SLC

REAR SHOCK ABSORBER FAILED. YH

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEPRESS THE BRAKE PEDAL IN HIS VEHICLE. HE HAS TO USE ALL OF HIS STRENGTH TO GET THEM TO WORK. IN ADDITION, THE ABS PUMP IS RUNNING AND WILL NOT SHUT OFF. THE ABS LIGHTS AND BRAKE LIGHTS ARE CURRENTLY ILLUMINATED. THE REAR WIPER ON THE REAR HATCH HAS BEEN REPLACED FOUR TIMES AT THE COST OF $350. THE WIPER CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF HAVING THE VEHICLE REPAIRED, THE FAILURE RECURRED. THE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR IS FALLING OFF THE HINGES AND THE DOOR WAS REPAIRED ONCE BEFORE WITH A USED DOOR. THE DOOR CURRENTLY NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED OR REPLACED AGAIN. AT 81,000 MILES, THE TRANSMISSION HAD TO BE REPLACED DUE TO SHIFT BUMP BEHAVIOR; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE STILL PERSISTS. THE AIR CONDITIONER HAS NOT WORKED SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 151,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.

4TH 1993 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER SE TRANSMISSION. NO WARNING BEFORE COMPLETE TRANSMISSION FAILURE. HAS 1ST GEAR TO ABOUT 15 MPH AND THEN SLIPS OUT OF GEAR. NO REVERSE NO NOTHING. VAN IS SITTING IN MY GARAGE WHILE I DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THIS GIANT BOAT ANCHOR. *JB

THE CENTER-MOUNTED REAR BRAKE LIGHT ON THIS MODEL IS EQUIPPED WITH THREE LAMPS. I NOTICED ONE OF THESE HAD BURNT OUT, AND UPON REPLACING IT I NOTICED THAT THE PLASTIC HOUSING THE LAMPS ARE MOUNTED IN WAS MELTED THROUGH ABOVE ALL THREE LAMPS, AND FURTHER THAT THE FOAM MATERIAL GLUED TO THE INTERIOR DRESSING PANEL ALSO SHOWED SIGNS OF MELTING. ALL THREE LAMPS HAD MELTED PLASTIC ON THEM AS WELL.

CONSUMER BROUGHT VEHICLE IN FOR RECALL REPAIRS, 96V099. MECHANIC INFORMED CONSUMER THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER TOOK CARE OF THE RECALL AND THAT THE PROBLEM CONSUMER WAS EXPERIENCING WAS A SENSOR, WHICH WAS NOT RECALL RELATED. CONSUMER WAS CHARGED FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING AND FEELS THIS IS AN ERROR SINCE NO TESTING WAS AUTHORIZED. CONSUMER REQUESTS REIMBURSEMENT. *JG