I WAS DRIVING AND THE WHOLE DASH PANEL WENT OUT, GAS, SPEED , HORN GAUGES
- NHTSA ID
- 11192209
- Incident
- Mar 3, 2019
Owner-reported complaints naming the electrical system, filed with NHTSA
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Reports naming the electrical system — wiring, battery, charging, control modules, infotainment and electrical accessories. Every record below is an owner-reported complaint about the 1998 Plymouth Grand Voyager submitted to NHTSA — not a confirmed defect, not a recall and not a manufacturer bulletin. 52 reports on file name it.
Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.
The 25 most recent of 52, in the owner's own words
I WAS DRIVING AND THE WHOLE DASH PANEL WENT OUT, GAS, SPEED , HORN GAUGES
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE HORN FAILED TO FUNCTION AND THE AIR BAG LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE CLOCK SPRING FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 04V480000 (AIR BAGS). THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 100,000.
AT CERTAIN TIMES THE SERPENTINE BELT WILL SLIP OFF OF THE PULLEYS AND QUIT POWERING THE ALTERNATOR, WATER PUMP, AND POWER STEERING PUMP. THIS CAN BE WORSENED BY RAINY CONDITIONS. CHANGING BELT TENSIONER WORKS FOR A YEAR OR TWO.
THE DASH PANEL DIES AND THE ABS LIGHT TURNS ON FOLLOWED BY THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DUE TO THE COMPUTER THROWING A CODE. I HAVE REMOVED THE DASH PANEL THREE TIMES AND FOUND THE PROBLEM IS AT THE FEMALE PLUG ON THE BACK OF THE PANEL, BY USING A WIGGLE TEST. THE DEALER WANTED $250.00 FOR WHAT THEY CLAIMED ONLY HAD ON CIRCUIT PANEL WHEN I KNEW BETTER. IT HAS TWO. I REPAIRED IT BY USING A STRONG ZIP TIE TO HOLD THE PLUG UP. THIS WORKED FOR YEARS. NOW IT'S THE SAME OLD PROBLEM BUT IT IS NO LONGER ON AND OFF DEPENDING ON THE TEMP.OF THE INSIDE OF THE VEHICLE. IT IS 100% DEAD SO NOW HERE I GO AGAIN. TAKE THE DASH APART AND TRY TO GET IT TO FUNCTION. I USE MY GPS FOR MILAGE, SPEED, AND FUEL. THAT AND A USB LIGHT MADE FOR A PC. I HAVE DELT WITH THE FAULTY TENSHIONER AND SERPENTINE BELT PROBLEM TWICE. NOW IT IS ALL THE RELAYS FROM HEAT BURNT OUT. IT STARTED WITH THE STARTER RELAY AND WENT SOUTH. TAIL LIGHTS AND SO ON.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WHILE DRIVING 60 MPH ON A MAJOR HIGHWAY, THE VEHICLE STALLED MULTIPLE TIMES. THE FUEL GAUGE FAILED TO READ PROPERLY AND THE INSTRUMENT PANEL CLUSTER MALFUNCTIONED. IN ADDITION, THE POWER LOCKS AND WINDOWS FAILED TO OPERATE AND THE INTERIOR DOME LIGHT FAILED THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 145,000.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT SHE SMELLED FUEL COMING FROM THE VEHICLE. ALSO, THE CONTACT MENTIONED THAT THE INSTRUMENT PANEL FAILED TO ILLUMINATE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A PRIVATE MECHANIC WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE FUEL PUMP MODULE ASSEMBLY AND INSTRUMENT CLUSTER ASSEMBLIES NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE AND STATED THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER 06E091000 (FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE). THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS UNKNOWN AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 77,000. *TR
COMPUTER FAILING TO SEND SIGNAL TO FAN RELAY. *TR
I PURCHASED VEHICLE USED AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS WITH THE VEHICLE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SQUEAKY SERPENTINE BELT. PUT A LITTLE BELT DRESSING ON IT AND THAT WAS AS FAR AS THE ISSUE WENT. THEN ON A DARK RAINY NIGHT, WENT THROUGH A RAIN PUDDLE-VERY SLOWLY, AND INSTANTLY, STEERING BECAME VERY DIFFICULT. THE WORST PART OF THIS EXPERIENCE THIS NIGHT WAS TRYING TO PUT BELT BACK ON PULLEYS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THE DARK AND NO IDEA HOW TO ROUTE IT. THANK GOODNESS THERE WAS A DIAGRAM IN ENGINE. WITH NO KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS WAS A VERY WELL KNOWN ISSUE WITH THESE VEHICLES IT WAS QUITE A SURPRISE. AFTER RESEARCHING THIS ONLINE, AND READING ALL OF THE CONSUMER COMPLAINTS I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE WAITING FOR!! FATAL ACCIDENTS!! THERE HAS BEEN MORE THAN ENOUGH INFO SUBMITTED AND DOCUMENTED TO WARRANT A RECALL AND HAVE THE MANUFACTURER TAKE CARE OF THIS. OH-BUT GUESS WHAT? ANOTHER COMPANY 'GATES" HAS COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT APPARENTLY HAS HAD POSITIVE REVIEWS. MY ORDER IS IN AND I AM AWAITING MY RETROFITTED TENSIONER BELT COMPONENT KIT SO THAT I WILL FEEL SAFE ENOUGH TO BE OUT ON THE ROADS AND THAT I WILL NOT BECOME A HAZARD TO OTHER DRIVERS ON THE ROAD WITH ME. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES TO THE AID OF A BIG COMPANY LIKE CHRYSLER (PLYMOUTH) EVEN WHEN IT IS MORE THAN OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE BUILDING SUBSTANDARD CARS. THIS IS NOT A MAJOR REPAIR, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY A PROBLEM THAT COULD VERY EASILY CAUSE SERIOUS BODILY INJURIES TO MANY PEOPLE FROM JUST ONE INCIDENT! IT HAS NOW BEEN FOURTEEN YEARS SINCE THIS CAR WAS MANUFACTURED. HOW MANY YEARS OF COMPLAINTS DOES IT TAKE TO GET SOMEONE TO NOTICE AND TAKE ACTION? IS THERE SOMEONE ABOVE YOU THAT WE HAVE TO BEG, PLEASE HELP US! THE LITTLE GUYS. WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO BEG, "PLEASE DON'T LET MY CAR BE THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO KILL SOMEONE."MAKE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE-BE RESPONSIBLE! THANK YOU (I THINK). *TR
DRIVING DOWN ROAD AND ALL OF SUDDEN MY GUAGES GO OUT ON INSTRUMENT PANEL-SPEEDOMETER,FUEL,TEMP, ETC. IT GOES OUT AND COMES ON WHENEVER IT WANTS TO- I DO A LOT OF TRAVELING AND RELY ON MILEAGE RE-IMBURSEMENT BUT I GET NONE CAUSE MY ODOMETER AND TRIPOMETER GO OUT ALSO, SOMETIMES TO NEVER COME ON FOR A WEEK OR TWO. *TT
DASHBOARD INSTRUMENT PANEL KEEPS COMING ON AND GOING OFF, ABS LIGHT COMES ON THEN THE INSTRUMENT PANEL GOES OFF. SPEED IS UNKNOWN, AMOUNT OF GAS IS UNKNOWN, OIL, ETC. THIS IS RIDICULOUS IN THE FACT THAT SO MANY HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT AND THE COMPANY STILL HASN'T RECALLED THE VEHICLES TO HAVE THIS ISSUE FIXED. YES I MAY HAVE A 1998 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER, BUT I DON'T FEEL THAT BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPETENCE THAT THIS COMPANY HAS THAT I SHOULD HAVE TO SHELL OUT MONEY TO HAVE IT FIGURED OUT AND REPAIRED. I UNDERSTAND NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR BUT THIS IS NOT NORMAL (FOR OTHER VEHICLES, OBVIOUSLY VERY NORMAL FOR THIS ONE IN GENERAL). THE STRANGEST THING IS, IF THE VEHICLE IS WARMED UP FROM THE SUN, THE PANEL SEEMS TO WORK, THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, WHERE I LIVE IT DOESN'T WORK, AND I HAVE TO GUESSTIMATE EVERYTHING. HOW IS THIS SAFE?!?! *TR
RANDOMLY A SHORT CIRCUIT IN THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER HAS DEVELOPED IN THE 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WHEN THIS OCCURS, THE DASH BOARD REMAINS ILLUMINATED BUT THE GAUGES DO NOT FUNCTION(SPEED, RPM, GEAR, TEMP,ETC) AND THE VEHICLE DOSES NOT COMMUNICATE TO THE TRANSMISSION AND THE VEHICLE DOES NOT SHIFT INTO OVERDRIVE GEAR. THE BRAKES AND AIRBAG WILL ILLUMINATE ON DASH. THE COMPUTER CODES AND READS ECM FAILURE. TWICE TAKEN TO DEALERSHIP DON DRENNAN HOOVER AL. *TR
I OWN A 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER SE. MY GAUGES (GAS, TEMP, RPM, AND GEAR INDICATOR) ARE ALL OUT. IN READING ONLINE, THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. I HAVE TO USE A GPS TO BE ABLE TO TELL HOW FAST I'M GOING. I'VE TWICE RAN OUT OF GAS WHILE GOING DOWN THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL HOW MUCH FUEL I HAVE REMAINING. *TR
MY VAN IS A LEMON. ALL KINDS OF ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS - DEFOGGER SOMETIMES WORK AND SOMETIMES NOT, WINDOWS WON'T ROLL DOWN, STEREO SPEAKERS SOMETIMES WORKS, INSTRUMENT PANEL LIGHTS GO OFF AND ON, DIM YELLOW HEADLIGHTS, ETC. FOUND PIN HOLE IN HEAD...DEFECT IN METAL. VAN OVER HEATED AND GAUGE DID NOT SAY IT WAS HOT. FAN WENT OUT. NOW SOMETHING GOING WRONG WITH FRONT END. OCCASIONALLY SMELL GAS. THE LIFTER HEAD GASKET NOW LEAKS OIL. VAN SOMETIMES JUMPS IN PARK AND ROLLS. I CAN NOT AFFORD TO FIX THIS STUFF... BAIL ME OUT NOT CHRYSLER.... *TR
I HAVE A 98 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS I HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THIS CAR, THE DASHBOARD KEEPS GOING OUT WHILE I'M DRIVING-I HAVE PUNCHED THE DASHBOARD WHILE I'M DRIVING AND SOMETIMES THAT HAVE MADE EVERYTHING LIGHT BACK UP, I HAVE PULLED OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AT NIGHT AND ALMOST GOT INTO A ACCIDENT BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM; IT EVEN HAPPENS WHEN THE CAR IS OFF, WHEN THIS HAPPENS THE CAR STARTS AND THAN SHUTS RIGHT BACK OFF, THAN THE CAR DOESN'T START AT ALL, I HAVE REPLACED THE STARTER,IGNITION BOX,ALTERNATOR AND OTHER THINGS. MY CAR IS NOW STRANDED IN A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD THAN MINE. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE FANBELT KEEPS COMING OFF, I HAVE BEEN DRIVING WITH MY KIDS IN THE CAR IN THE RAIN AND IT HAS FALLING OFF, ANOTHER TIME IT HAPPENED I WAS GOING OVER A TRAIN BRIDGE DOWN A HILL WITH MY KIDS IN THE CAR AND I HAD TO FORCE THE CAR INTO A NEAR BYE SCHOOL PARKING LOT. I HAVE WENT TO THE DEALERSHIP AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT A KIT SUPPLIED BY CHRYSLER TO HELP PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AND THEY SAID THERE WAS NO RECALL ON THIS PROBLEM, THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION, PLEASE HELP ME! *TR
1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER SE. KEY WOULD NOT TURN IN THE IGNITION SWITCH. THIS HAS HAPPENED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST. ON FRIDAY, 02 JANUARY 2009, WE HAD DRIVEN THE VEHICLE TO A DESTINATION AND THEN UPON TRYING TO GET IN AND START IT, THE KEY WOULD NOT TURN IN THE IGNITION SWITCH. WE TRIED TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL TO RELEASE ANY PRESSURE, WIGGLED THE STEERING WHEEL, ETC UNTIL FINALLY, THE STEERING WHEEL BECAME LOCKED. AT THAT POINT, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE COULD DO WITH THE VEHICLE. WE WERE BLOCKING THE DRIVE INTO A GLASS REPAIR SHOP SUCH THAT NO OTHER VEHICLES COULD BE MOVED IN OR OUT OF THE BUSINESS, NOT TO MENTION THE WEATHER WAS VERY COLD. WE HAD TO HAVE A TOW COMPANY COME AND RELEASE A LINKAGE UNDERNEATH THE VAN IN ORDER TO GET IT INTO NEUTRAL JUST TO PUSH IT BACK OUT OF THE WAY. WE HAD IT TOWED TO A DODGE DEALER IN BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA TO HAVE IT LOOKED AT. THE RESULT WAS A FAULTY IGNITION CYLINDER. THE DEALER REPLACED IT AT A COST OF NEARLY $300. AFTER MUCH RESEARCH ONLINE, IT APPEARS THAT THIS IS A WIDE SPREAD PROBLEM ACROSS THE ENTIRE CHRYSLER PRODUCT LINE. THIS FAULT PUTS A PERSON AT RISK OF BEING STRANDED. CHRYSLER SHOULD ANSWER FOR THIS, AS THIS SEEMS TO BE VERY WIDESPREAD. *TR
CHRYSLER DESIGNED THE POWER DISTRIBUTION BLOCK COVER TO HOLD WATER AND RETAIN MOISTURE. THIS CAUSES THE CONNECTIONS TO CORRODE AND FAIL LEADING TO FAILURE OF CRITICAL, ELECTRICALLY-OPERATED, SAFETY SYSTEMS INCLUDING THE AIRBAG SAFETY RESTRAINT SYSTEM AND THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM. CHRYSLER HAS BEEN AWARE OF THE ERROR AND REDESIGNED THE POWER DISTRIBUTION BOX. HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT RECALL AND OFFER TO REPLACE THE FAILED COMPONENT. *TR
MY ENTIRE INSTRUMENT PANEL SUDDENLY QUIT WORKING AND MY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND ABS LIGHT ARE ALWAYS ON. THE WIPERS START ON THEIR OWN WHENEVER THEY LIKE AND I HAVE TO MANUALLY TIME WHEN I TURN THEM OFF BECAUSE THE WIPERS WILL NOT RETURN TO THE BOTTOM ON THEIR OWN. *TR
HEADLIGHTS, INTERIOR AND OTHER LIGHTS, COME ON AND GO OFF AUTOMATICALLY. THIS CAN HAPPEN WHEN VEHICLE IS RUNNING (LIGHTS FLASHING) AND THIS HAPPENS EVEN WHEN ENGINE AND IGNITION IS OFF. EVENTUALLY BATTERY IS COMPLETELY DRAINED. MECHANICS ARE UNABLE TO PROPERLY DIAGNOSE PROBLEM. SOME MECHANICS SAY IT COULD BE BECAUSE OF A FAULTY BCM, BUT NOT SURE. READING THROUGH EDMUNDS.COM AND OTHER BLOGS, THIS SEEMS TO BE A COMMON PROBLEM WITH MANY PLYMOUTH/DODGE/CHRYSLER MINI VAN OWNERS, WITH NO REAL SOLUTION. FLASHING LIGHTS WHEN DRIVING CAN DISTRACT OTHER DRIVERS ON THE ROAD. A DEAD BATTERY AT ANY TIME AND ESPECIALLY IN THE WRONG PLACE CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF DIFFICULTIES. HEADLIGHTS GOING OFF DURING NIGHT DRIVING CAN LEAD TO ACCIDENTS. TOOK THE VEHICLE TO A LOCAL MECHANIC WHO RAN A DIAGNOSTIC TEST AND WAS UNABLE TO FIND ROOT CAUSE, BUT SUGGESTED COULD BE FAULTY BCM (DIAGNOSTICS COST $150). TOOK THE VEHICLE TO CHRYSLER DEALER WHO RAN DIAGNOSTICS AND SAID COULD BE BECAUSE OF AN AFTER MARKET ALARM. RECOMMENDED REMOVING THE ALARM (COST $400 FOR DIAGNOSTICS AND REMOVING ALARM). PROBLEM WAS NOT SOLVED AND NOW SAYS CAUSED BY FAULTY BCM (WHICH THEY SAY COULD HAVE BEEN CAUSED BY ALARM), SUGGESTED REPLACING BCM. COST OF NEW BCM QUOTED IS $700+ LABOR. VEHICLE IS CURRENTLY INOPERABLE (DEAD BATTERY). IS THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM WITH PLYMOUTH/ DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN'S? *TR
ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS WITH MY 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER. WIPERS WILL NOT TURN OFF AND ALL GAUGES DIED. NO SPEEDOMETER, NO TACHOMETER, NO FUEL GAUGE AND NO TEMP GAUGE. *NM
BREAK PEDAL STOP LIGHT SWITCH. THE WIRE HARNESS MOVES EVERY TIME YOU STEP ON THE PEDAL, THUS MAKING THE WIRES BREAK. WHEN THE WIRE BREAKS THE STOP LIGHTS DON'T WORK AND COULD AND ALMOST LEAD TO A FEW REAR END CRASHES I HAD. WIRES REPLACED AND HAD PEDAL AND HARNESS TO CONFIGURE NOT TO MOVE WHEN THE BREAK PEDAL PRESSED. *NM
I SEE THERE IS AN INVESTIGATION ON DODGE CARAVAN AND GRAND CARAVAN, PLYMOUTH VOYAGER AND GRAND VOYAGER AND CHRYSLER TOWN AND COUNTRY AND VOYAGER MINIVANS FROM THE 2001 AND 2002 MODEL YEARS. OWNERS HAVE REPORTED THAT THE HEADLIGHTS ARE FLICKERING, DIMMING AND PERIODICALLY SHUTTING DOWN WHILE THE VEHICLE IS IN MOTION. THE PROBLEM HAS LED TO THE MINIVANS BEING TOWED IN SOME CASES. I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU CAN ADD MY YEAR MINIVAN. I HAVE A 1998 PLYMOUTH GRAND VOYAGER EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEMS. I AM NOT ABLE TO GET IT FIXED BECAUSE THE MECHANIC CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT IS CAUSING THIS. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO ADD MY VEHICLE TO THIS SAFETY INVESTIGATION??? THE HEADLIGHTS ARE FLICKERING ON AND OFF, THE DASH LIGHTS DO THIS AT THE SAME TIME. SOMETIMES THE HEADLIGHTS JUST STAY ON.
THERE IS NO PARTICULAR EVENT THAT TRIGGERS THE FOLLOWING PROBLEMS: THE INSTRUMENT CLUSTER / CONTROLLER IS DEFECTIVE. THE GAUGES FAIL CONSTANTLY. THE ABS LIGHT STAYS ON WHICH I BELIEVE IS RELATED TO THE CLOCK-SPRING RECALL, AND THE SPEEDOMETER, ODOMETER, TACHOMETER,FUEL GAGES STOP WORKING. I READ AN ARTICLE IN A FORUM THAT SAID DISCONNECT THE BATTERY BECAUSE IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE ECU. IT SEEMS RESETTING THE ECU DID FIX THE PROBLEM TEMPORARILY. SO EACH TIME IT HAPPENS THAT HOW I FIX IT. A RECALL FOR THE DEFECTIVE ECU MAY BE IN ORDER. I HAVE READ MANY ARTICLES WITH PEOPLE WITH THIS SAME ISSUE. (2) THE LEDS FOR THE A/C, HEATING AND REAR WIPERS DON'T WORK. THEY JUST BLINK. I HAVE FOUND THAT IF YOU DRIVE LONG ENOUGH, THEY START WORKING USUALLY NON-STOP DRIVING FOR OVER AN HOUR.
NOTHING ON DASH BOARD WORKS. *JB
WHILE DRIVING 30 MPH OR MORE THE ABS AND THE "CHECK ENGINE" LIGHTS ILLUMINATED SIMULTANEOUSLY. THE CONDITION CAUSED THE INSTRUMENT GAUGES AND THE POWER DOOR LOCKS TO BE INOPERATIVE. THE VEHICLE HAS BEEN TO THE DEALER ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THEY REPLACED THREE DIFFERENCE SENSORS AND A MODULE AND THE PROBLEM KEEPS RECURRING. *JB *SC
FAILED STARTER. REPLACED STARTER. ENGINE 3.3L. MILEAGE 88862. *AK
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