2002 Chevrolet Venture Brakes Problems

ON THE WAY TO TAKING MY SON TO WORK, I NOTICED A LOUD BUZZING SOUND COMING FROM THE REAR PASSENGER SIDE OF MY 2002 CHEVY VENTURE VAN. UPON CHECKING THE DASHBOARD FOR A WARNING SIGNAL, THERE WEREN'T ANY WARNING LIGHT'S DISPLAYED.I JUST RECENTLY HAD REAR BRAKE WORK DONE AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS THE PROBLEM. ALSO, I HAVE BEEN NOTICING A LOUD PITCHED WHISTLING SOUND THAT STARTS AT ABOUT 20 MPH AND STOPS AT ABOUT 45 MPH. THERE IS A RATTLING NOISE THAT ACCOMPANIES THE WHISTLING SOUND WHEN THE CAR IS IN ACCELERATION. *TR

NHTSA ID

10606095

Incident

Jun 26, 2014

Mileage

195,000 mi

CHEVY VENTURE 2002 W/83732 MILES. TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: ANTI-LOCK-ABS LIGHT, INTERMITTENT ABS INDICATOR LIGHT. STARTED HAVING ISSUES WITH THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKES SYSTEM, WHEN ISSUE STARTED THE ABS LIGHT INDICATOR LIGHT WOULD INTERMITTENTLY FLASH AND THE ABS WOULD BY ITSELF TRIED TO ENGAGED WHILE CAR WAS RUNNING. THIS MADE DRIVING THE VEHICLE VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE THE ABS WOULD TRY TO ENGAGE WHILE RUNNING NOT BRAKING. ON MAY 2, 2002, I TOOK THE VAN TO LOCAL DEALERSHIP TO HAVE IT DIAGNOSED FOR THE ABS LIGHT ON. THEY DETECTED A LEFT REAR DEFECTIVE SPEED SENSOR AND THEY ADVISED ME TO HAVE IT REPAIR FOR A TOTAL COST OF $741.00 WHICH I DECLINED. I THEN CALLED GM TO INQUIRE ABOUT ANY SERVICE BULLETINS AND/OR RECALLS ON MY MINIVAN, GM FOUND NONE AND THEY DECLINED TO ASSIST WITH THIS REPAIR. GLEN AT GM STATED THAT THE DEFECTIVE SPEED SENSOR HAD FAILED BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF THE VEHICLE AND THE DRIVING ENVIRONMENT WHERE VEHICLE IS DRIVEN (ILLINOIS=SNOW=SALT=CORROSION). I DO FEEL THAT THERE IS A DEFECTIVE PART WITHIN THE ABS BRAKING SYSTEM AND TO BE MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE SPEED SENSOR. I WILL NOT BE BUYING ANOTHER GM PRODUCT. I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY TO SEE A SAFETY RECALL ON THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THIS MATTER. [XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6) *JS

NHTSA ID

10457181

Incident

May 2, 2012

SUSPENSION--BOTH TIE RODS IN THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE HAVE HAD TO BE REPLACED--MECHANIC SAID THAT BOTH TIMES IT WAS NEAR CATASTROPHIC FAILURE. OTHER--AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER CRACKED DUE TO DESIGN FAILURE. 2002 SERVICE BULLETIN TOLD THAT GM WAS AWARE OF THE PROBLEM BUT KEPT QUIET UNTIL THE WARRANTY PERIOD WAS OVER, AND THEN REFUSED TO HELP. BRAKES--FRONT BRAKE PADS HAVE BEEN REPLACED FOUR (4) TIMES, ROTORS HAVE BEEN REPLACED TWICE. THE VEHICLE HAS 83,000 ORIGINAL MILES. I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER. *TR

NHTSA ID

10451984

Incident

Mar 16, 2012

Mileage

83,000 mi

AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER FAILED, GM NEW OF THE PROBLEM IN DECEMBER, 2002, BUT KEPT THEIR MOUTH SHUT UNTIL THE WARRANTY EXPIRED. THE GAS GAUGE DOES NOT WORK, IT FLIPS FROM FULL TO EMPTY, I HAVE TO KEEP A MILEAGE NOTEBOOK IN ORDER TO KNOW WHEN TO FILL UP. MY WARNING LIGHT ON THE DASH CONTINUES TO FLASH "REAR HATCH AJAR, SIDE DOOR AJAR, LOW BRAKE FLUID." THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THE ITEMS. THE FRONT BRAKES WENT BAD AT 32,000, REQUIRING NEW PADS AND ROTORS. THE WINDOW BUTTON ON THE DRIVER SIDE WILL PUT THE PASSENGER WINDOW DOWN, BUT NOT UP. THE REAR WINDOW WASHER DOES NOT WORK. I AM SO GLAD THAT GM IS GOING BANKRUPT. I BOUGHT AN AMERICAN CAR, TO TRY AND HELP THE WORKERS STAY EMPLOYED, BUT NOW REALIZE THAT ALL I DID WAS TO KEEP SOME OVERPAID, LAZY SLOBS ON THE JOB FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED. THE DEALER HAS BEEN A COMPLETE LOSS, WITH GM CUSTOMER SERVICE HAVING THE ATTITUDE THAT, "SINCE THE WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED, YOU CAN STICK IT, BECAUSE WE DON'T CARE. *TR

NHTSA ID

10268960

Incident

Jul 28, 2004

Mileage

32,000 mi

I HAVE A 2002 CHEVY VENTURE THAT KEEPS BLOWING THE REAR BRAKE LIGHTS. I KEEP CHANGING THEM ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. *TR

NHTSA ID

10264490

Incident

Apr 8, 2009

Mileage

90,000 mi

FRONT BRAKES FAILED PREMATURELY--ROTORS WERE DESTROYED AT 34,000 MILES. AIR CONDITIONER CONDENSER FAILED, GM KNEW OF PROBLEM IN DEC. OF 2002 BUT KEPT QUIET UNTIL WARRANTY RAN OUT. NEEDED TO REPLACE CONDENSER AND DRYER WITH NEW PARTS, GM WOULD NOT HELP. FUEL GAUGE DOESN'T WORK, HAVE TO KEEP PAPER ECORD OF FUEL CONSUMPTION. REAR WINDOW WASHER HAS FAILED, DOES NOT SPRAY. *TR

NHTSA ID

10239574

Incident

Jul 16, 2007

Mileage

43,000 mi

LAST YEAR I TOOK MY VENTURE INTO THE DEALER TO HAVE IT LOOKED OVER BECAUSE THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WAS ON, ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAD 3 LIGHTS ON. I HAD NO TRACTION CONTROL OR ABS. AFTER HAVING THE SERVICE DEPT. LOOK AT MY VEHICLE, I WAS TOLD IT WAS A SENSOR IN THE LEFT REAR WHEEL. SINCE I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT OTHER OWNERS HAVE HAD SIMILAR PROBLEMS, I THINK GM SHOULD GET INVOLVED. THE PART WAS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE SO I'VE HAD TO GO WITHOUT FOR THE LAST YEAR. *TR

NHTSA ID

10219335

Incident

May 20, 2007

Mileage

86,124 mi

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2002 CHEVROLET VENTURE. THE BRAKE LIGHT WORKED INTERMITTENTLY. THE BULB WAS CHANGED, BUT THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDE PLASTIC INPUT FOR THE BULB MELTED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INSPECTED BY A DEALER. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 65,000 AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 79,000.

NHTSA ID

10207445

Incident

Mar 1, 2007

Mileage

65,000 mi

CONSTANT PROBLEMS WITH ABS/AWD SYSTEM. THIS VAN HAS BEEN AT THE DEALER 13 TIMES AND GOING TO BE 14 SOON FOR THE SAME ISSUES. IN ONLY 18 MONTHS. HUBS HAVE BEEN REPLACED BOTH ON MY OWNERSHIP AND PRIOR TO MY OWNERSHIP. WIRING HARNESSES HAVE BEEN REPAIRED AND THE PROBLEM REMAINS. NOW JUST DRIVING THE ABS COMPUTER ACTIVATES, AS WELL AS NOW WHEN YOU STOP THE COMPUTER KEEP ACTIVATING FOR ABOUT 3 SECONDS AFTER COMPLETE STOP. GM HAS BEEN NOTIFYED AND CAN NOT RESPOND FOR 6 DAYS. IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE SYSTEM CAUSES A COMPLETE BRAKE SYSTEM FAILURE, WILL THIS HAPPEN BEFORE SOMEONE FORCES A REPAIR? OR WILL IT WAIT UNTIL SOMEBODY IS CRITICALLY INJURED OR DIES? I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE GOVERNMENT COULD JUMP IN AND NOT WAIST TIME DOING SO. JUST ON THIS SITE IT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED 20 TIMES, COMPLAINT NUMBERS, 80005017, 10002188, 10014288, 10021976, 10040887, 10051990, 10057579, 10064377, 10069872, 10059752, 10083334, 10060961, 10103060, 10105875, 10108658, 10134831, 10135162, 10135981, 10170423, 10183334. THE DEALER HAS TRIED TO REPAIR THIS PROBLEM BUT TO NO AVAIL.

NHTSA ID

10185929

Incident

Mar 14, 2007

Mileage

45,000 mi

2002 CHEVY VENTURE WITH 62000 MILES. HAVE REPLACED RIGHT FRONT HUB AND HARNESS ETC 2 TIMES (JAN 3, 2003 AT 10800 MILES AND FEB 22, 2006 AT 62000 MILES LEFT FRONT HUB, HARNESS ETC JULY 17, 2003 AT 19800 MILES ALL BY DEALERS. ABS INOPERATIVE SHORTED MODULE AWD DISABLE FROM ABOVE. *JB

NHTSA ID

10183334

Incident

Feb 22, 2007

Mileage

62,301 mi

I JUST BOUGHT THIS CAR IN MARCH OF 2006. I HAVE ALREADY HAVE HAD BRAKE PROBLEMS, RADIATOR PROBLEMS, AND NOW ENGINE AND OIL PUMP PROBLEMS. I STILL HAVE APPROX. $7,500.00 IN PAYMENTS TO A FINANCIAL COMPANY. I DID HAVE AN AS IS PURCHASE BUT IS THERE ANY KICK BACK FOR MIEN SOME WAY. THIS ISN'T FAIR. IS THERE ANY THING I CAN DO TO HAVE THE DEALER AT LEAST HELP WITH THE PURCHASE AND REPAIR FOR A NEW ENGINE FOR THIS CAR. IT ALSO HAVE 10 POTENTIAL LISTINGS UNDER AUTOCHECK.COM. I HAVEN'T OBTAINED THOSE BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE THE EXTRA MONEY TO PURCHASE THESE REPORTS. *JB

NHTSA ID

10170423

Incident

Sep 19, 2006

THE DRIVER'S SIDE BRAKE LIGHT ON MY 2002 CHEVY VENTURE IS ALWAYS OUT. THE BULB HAS BEEN REPLACED NUMEROUS TIMES, TO NO AVAIL. TECHNICIANS AT OIL CHANGE BUSINESSES HAVE TOLD ME THAT THIS IS COMMON PROBLEM WITH CHEVY VENTURES. I HAVE SEEN OTHER CHEVY VENTURES ON THE ROAD WITH THE SAME LIGHT OUT. I HAD MY VENTURE AT THE CAR DEALER FOR A RECALL SERVICE ON THE DOOR HANDLES AND ASKED THEM TO ALSO FIX THE BRAKE LIGHT PROBLEM. THEY FINISHED MY SENTENCE FOR ME WHEN I WAS DESCRIBING THE PROBLEM--THEY ALREADY KNEW THAT VENTURES HAVE THIS PROBLEM. HOWEVER, THEY DID NOT FIX IT. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT CHEVY TRUCKS AND SUVS HAVE BEEN RECALLED FOR THIS VERY PROBLEM. I BELIEVE THE VENTURE SHOULD BE RECALLED TOO. *JB

NHTSA ID

10170238

Incident

Oct 1, 2006

Mileage

1,000 mi

THE DRIVER'S SIDE BRAKE LIGHT BURNS OUT CONSTANTLY ON MY 2002 CHEVROLET VENTURE VAN. IT SEEMS THE HOUSING GETS TOO HOT AND MELTS THE BULB AT THE POINT OF CONTACT. MY MECHANIC HAS REPLACED THE BULB AND ATTEMPTED TO FIX IT NUMEROUS TIMES AS HAVE I. MY MECHANIC SAYS HE HAS SEEN THIS BEFORE ON THIS MODEL VAN AND IT'S ALWAYS THE DRIVER SIDE. I'M AFRAID I WILL BE REAR-ENDED WITH THIS LIGHT BEING OUT MOST OF THE TIME. CHEVROLET HAS FAILED TO ADMIT THERE IS AN ISSUE.*JB

NHTSA ID

10166996

Incident

Aug 29, 2006

Mileage

17,000 mi

2002 CHEVY VENTURE BRAKE LIGHTS. MOSTLY, THE REAR RIGHT BRAKE LIGHT DOES NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY. OCCASIONALLY, THE LEFT REAR BRAKE LIGHT MAY NOT FUNCTION EITHER. SOMETIMES, BOTH WILL NOT WORK CORRECTLY. THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TIME, THE RIGHT REAR BRAKE DOES NOT WORK OR "BLOWS" PREMATURELY. HAVE REPLACED FOUR BULBS ON THE RIGHT SIDE ALONE, OF WHICH TWO DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE BLOWN. HAVE SEEN AND TALKED TO OTHER VENTURE OWNERS WHO HAVE SAME PROBLEM. THIS IS A ROAD HAZARD AS YOU NEVER KNOW IF AND HOW MANY OF YOUR BRAKE LIGHTS ARE OPERATIONAL. *NM

NHTSA ID

10156518

Incident

Apr 29, 2006

Mileage

35,000 mi

THE LEFT REAR (DRIVER'S SIDE) BRAKE LIGHT (UPPER MOST BULB/3057) KEEPS BURNING OUT. THIS HAS OCCURRED THREE TIMES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. UPON INSPECTION OF THE BULB, THERE IS PHYSICAL DAMAGE (MELTING) ON THE MALE BULB CONNECTION. *JB

NHTSA ID

10144906

Incident

Dec 7, 2005

ABS BRAKE FAILURE WITH AWD DISABLE. ABS LIGHT CAME ON WITH AWD DISABLE MESSAGE, BOTH ARE CONNECTED. WITH ABS FAILURE, AWD IS DISABLES. FAILURE REQUIRED REPLACEMENT OF PART. NO CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE IT WAS SUMMER AND NO SNOW, WINTER WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT STORY. ONLY PART THAT FAILED WAS REPLACED BUT THERE IS A SERVICE BULLETIN AND RE-ENGINEERED PART DUE TO OBVIOUS PROBLEMS. BULLETIN IS #03-05-25-004A. CONCERN IS THAT ABS AND AWD FAIL AT SAME TIME, I FEEL THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY HAZARD IN WINTER DRIVING, THE TYPE YOU BUY A AWD FOR. I HAVE CONTACTED GM AND THE REFUSE TO REPLACE OTHER PART. *NM

NHTSA ID

10135981

Incident

Jul 15, 2005

Mileage

26,000 mi

WE OWN A 2002 CHEVY VENTURE. THE HUB SENSORS HAVE FAILED AND HAD TO BE REPLACED THREE TIMES SINCE WE HAVE PURCHASED THE VEHICLE. THE NHSTA JUST ISSUED A RECALL-05V379000- FOR GM SUV'S AND TRUCKS WITH THE SAME PROBLEM. ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE THE CHEVY VENTURE. WHEN THE ABS SENSORS FAIL OUR ROTORS HAVE TO BE REPLACED AND OUR BRAKES FAIL WITHEN A SHORT TIME OF THE FAILURE OF THE SENSOR. I HAVE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH GM AND THE DEALER TO TAKE THE VEHICLE BACK BUT TO NO AVAIL.

NHTSA ID

10135162

Incident

Jan 1, 2003

Mileage

8,000 mi

I OWN A 2002 CHEVY VENTURE AND HAD THE PROBLEM OF ABS DIS-ENGAGING AND THE ABS WARNING LIGHT COME ON INTERMITTENTLY AT FIRST WHEN THE CAR IS IN MOTION (MOSTLY AT LOW SPEEDS) AND THEN PERMANENTLY. THE FIRST TWO TIMES I TOOK IT TO THE DEALERSHIP, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH BRAKES AND TIRES. I GOT THEM REPLACED AND EVEN THEN THE PROBLEM PERSISTED. FINALLY, I WAS TOLD THAT THE FRONT LEFT HUB ASSEMBLY NEEDED TO BE CHANGED AND IT WAS DONE AT NO COST TO ME (THE CAR IS UNDER MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY). DURING THE TIME THE HUB ASSEMBLY WAS CHANGED, I GOT AN UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING THAT I WAS NOT BEING GIVEN THE REASON FOR THE ABS PROBLEM IN A STRAIGHT FORWARD WAY. I NOW SEE THAT CERTAIN CHEVROLET VEHICLES (VENTURE IS NOT ONE OF THEM) HAVE BEEN RECALLED FOR A FRONT END HUB ASSEMBLY PROBLEM. THE SYMPTOM FOR THE RECALL SEEMS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BUT I WOULD LIKE THE NHTSA TO INVESTIGATE AND MAKE SURE THAT CHEVY VENTURE DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME HUB ASSEMBLY CORROSION PROBLEM. THE INCIDENT DATE I MENTION BELOW IS THE LATEST INCIDENT DATE, BUT I HAVE HAD THE PROBLEM AT LEAST FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS.

NHTSA ID

10134831

Incident

Aug 21, 2005

WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 15 MPH BRAKES FAILED. WHILE APPLYING THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO FLOOR. WAS ABLE TO AVOID ACCIDENT BY PULLING INTO A PARKING LOT. WHEN TURNING THE CAR OFF THEN BACK ON, BRAKE FAILURE LIGHT COMES ON. *NM *NM

NHTSA ID

10108658

Incident

Jan 13, 2005

Mileage

28,000 mi

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONING UNIT, LOCK ON BACK HATCH, THE POWER SLIDER, AND THE FRONT AND PASSENGER WINDOWS HAVE A HARD TIME ROLLING UP OR DOWN WHEN IT IS COLD OUTSIDE, EVEN THOUGH CAR WAS PARKED INSIDE GARAGE ALL NIGHT. THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT STOPPED BLOWING COLD AIR JUST ABOUT 6 MONTHS AFTER WE GOT IT. THE LOCK ON THE BACK END WAS STUCK IN THE LOCKED POSITIONED AND WOULD NOT DISENGAGE. AND THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM IS ALL MESSED UP IN THE BACK END. TAILLIGHTS WANT TO WORK WHEN THERE NOT SUPPOSED TO AND THE SAME WITH THE REVERSE LIGHTS. LIGHTS BRIGHTER THEN OTHERS ON ONE SIDE THEN THE OTHER, THEN A FEW MINUTES LATER IT WILL BE THE OTHER WHY AROUND. ALOT HAS TO DO WITH WHEN I PUSH ON THE BRAKE PEDAL IF THE TURN SIGNALS ARE GOING TO WORK OR NOT. AND THE POWER SLIDER WAS ALREADY RECALLED ON THE VAN. THE REAR BRAKES ON THE VAN ARE STICKING. EXAMPLE: WHEN YOU STOP FOR A SECOND AND THEN RELEASE THE BRAKES IT WILL MAKE A LOUD NOISE LIKE IT WAS STUCK AND THEN HAD TO FORCE ITSELF TO RELEASE. NOT SURE WHERE TO START ON THIS PROCESS TO GET EVERYTHING FIXED. *JB

NHTSA ID

10107748

Incident

Feb 1, 2003

CRANCKING EXTENSVLY, BRAKES FRONT AND REAR, UNEVEN WEAR AND TEAR, HYDROPLANING NOISE, VIBRATIONS, STEERING AND UNALIGNMENTS PROBLEMS, EMMISION REPAIRED AND TREATED, AS THE CREATED SULPHUR ODORS, AND STALLING. UNEVEN DRIVING, ABS LIGHT COMING ON AT SPEED EXCEEDING 60 MPH. *AK

NHTSA ID

10105875

Incident

Aug 16, 2002

Mileage

12,000 mi

TAIL LAMP BULB BASE AND/OR SOCKETS ON GENERAL MOTORS MINIVANS HEATING UP AND MELTING CAUSING A DISCONNECTION OF THE CIRCUIT AND LOSS OF STOP AND TURN SIGNALS. SAME CONDITION AS WITH THE SUV'S IN RECALL # 04V527000. REPLACING BULBS ARE ONLY A TEMPORARY FIX.*AK

NHTSA ID

10104471

Incident

Dec 20, 2004

THE DESIGN OF THE ABS ON THE 2002 CHEVY VENTURE (AWD) IS THAT THE ABS IS TIED TO THE AWD FOR TRACTION CONTROL. THE FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT ABS SENSORS HAVE CRACKED 4 TIMES IN THE PAST 2 YEARS ON OUR VEHICLE, WITH THE 5TH TIME OCCURRING THIS MONTH. WHEN THE ABS SENSORS (HUB ASSEMBLY) MALFUNCTIONS, IT DISENGAGES THE AWD. WHILE THE ABS AND AWD SHOULD BE TIED TOGETHER FOR TRACTION CONTROL, THEY SHOULD NOT DISENGAGE EACH OTHER. IN ADDITION, THERE IS NO WARNING WHEN THE ABS MALFUNCTIONS, AND ONCE IT MALFUNCTIONS, IT DOES NOT STAY MALFUNTIONED. THIS MEANS THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU START THE VEHICLE, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT IS NO LONGER ON. IF YOU ARE BRAKING AT THE TIME OF THE MALFUNCTION, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP, WHICH COULD RESULT IN AN ACCIDENT. WE BOUGHT THE VENTURE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE AWD FEATURE, AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT DUE TO POOR DESIGN OR LACK OF QUALITY CONTROL ON THE PART, WE DO NOT HAVE THE RELIABILITY OF THE AWD, NOT TO MENTION THE POSSIBLE ACCIDENT(S) THAT COULD OCCUR.*AK

NHTSA ID

10103060

Incident

Dec 6, 2002

FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, I HAD TO REPLACE THE REAR WHEEL CYLINDERS AND BRAKES. REPLACING THE BRAKES WAS NECESSARY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE LEAKING WHEEL CYLINDERS LUBRICANT GOT ONTO THE BRAKE SHOES. *JB

NHTSA ID

10098408

Incident

Nov 5, 2004

Mileage

49,000 mi

BRAKE ROTORS RUSTED. AS A RESULT, THE BRAKES WORE OUT PREMATURELY. *AK

NHTSA ID

10095109

Incident

Sep 13, 2004

Mileage

36,000 mi