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2017 Tiffin Phaeton

Recalls, owner-reported complaints, investigations and safety data

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Owner complaintsComplaints are reports submitted to NHTSA by owners and drivers. NHTSA does not verify most reports before publishing them, and a complaint does not establish that a defect exists. Volume is influenced by how many of a vehicle were sold, how long it has been on the road, and how much attention an issue has received.
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Latest Nov 5, 2020
Safety recallsA safety recall is issued when a manufacturer or NHTSA determines that a vehicle has a safety-related defect or does not comply with a federal motor vehicle safety standard. Recall repairs are free. Whether a specific vehicle is covered depends on its VIN — a recall listed for a model year does not necessarily apply to every vehicle of that year.
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Latest Apr 30, 2021
InvestigationsNHTSA opens an investigation to examine whether a safety defect may exist. An open investigation is not a determination that a defect exists, and many investigations close without a recall. Investigations can, however, lead to one.
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Crash or fire reportedComplaints whose submitter recorded that a crash or a fire occurred. These are the reporter's own answers on the NHTSA form, not verified findings.
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Overview

Our database contains 1 NHTSA owner-reported complaint for the 2017 Tiffin Phaeton, most frequently naming the other / unspecified and tires & wheels categories. 2 safety recalls have been issued covering this model year; and 6 manufacturer communications are on file.

Complaints are reports submitted by owners and drivers to NHTSA. They are not verified and do not establish that a defect exists.

What owners report

Complaints grouped by the component NHTSA recorded

  • Other / unspecified150.0%
  • Tires & wheels150.0%

Percentages are of component mentions. A single complaint can name more than one component, so these do not sum to the total complaint count.

Safety recalls

2 campaigns cover this model year

Recalls apply to specific vehicles, not to every vehicle of a model year. Check your VIN with NHTSA or your manufacturer's dealer to confirm whether a recall affects your vehicle.

Check a VIN on NHTSA.gov

FUEL SYSTEM, DIESEL:FUEL INJECTION SYSTEM:FUEL RAIL

Apr 30, 2021
3,198 units potentially affected
The defect: Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc. (Tiffin) is recalling certain 2017-2021 Bus and Phaeton vehicles. The sealing washer may not seat correctly in the pilot bore, allowing the high pressure fuel rail assembly to leak.
The risk: A fuel leak in the presence of an ignition source increases the risk of a fire.
The remedy: Tiffin will work with Cummins to inspect the rail threads , and replace the rail and fuel lines if damage is found, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed August 11, 2021. Owners may contact Tiffin customer service at 1-256-356-8661.
Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.Manufacturer number TIF-116View on NHTSA.gov

EQUIPMENT

Dec 22, 2017
36,005 units potentially affected
The defect: Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc. (Tiffin) is recalling certain 2009-2018 Allegro and Allegro RED, Bus and Phaeton vehicles, 2009-2010 Bay vehicles, 2011-2018 Breeze vehicles, and 2009-2015, and 2017-2018 Zephyr vehicles. These motorhomes are equipped with Kidde Plastic-Handle or Push Button 'Pindicator' Fire Extinguishers that may become clogged, preventing the extinguisher from discharging as expected or excessive force may be needed to activate the extinguisher. Additionally, in certain models, the nozzle may detach from the valve assembly with enough force that it could cause injury and also render the product inoperable. For a full list of the affected fire extinguisher models visit: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2017/RMISC-17E062-5427.pdf
The risk: In the event of a fire, if the fire extinguisher does not function properly, it can increase the risk of injury.
The remedy: Tiffin will notify owners, and instruct them to contact Kidde for a replacement fire extinguisher, free of charge. The recall began on February 5, 2018. Owners may contact Kidde customer service toll-free at 1-855-262-3540, or online at www.kidde.com and click on "Product Safety Recall" for more information. Owners may also contact Tiffin customer service at 1-256-356-8661.
Tiffin Motorhomes, Inc.View on NHTSA.gov

Recent owner complaints

Reports submitted to NHTSA, shown in the owner's own words

Other / unspecifiedTires & wheels
Filed Nov 5, 2020

AT 23000 MILES MY RIGHT OUTER DUEL MICHELIN TIRE BLEW WHILE TRAVELING AT 60 MPH ON I77. ENDED UP GETTING OFF HIGHWAY AND INTO A PLAZA WHERE ROAD SERVICE REPLACED THE TIRE.IT HAD A ZIPPER RIP IN THE SIDEWALL TIRES STILL HAVE 9/16" TREAD,WERE LOADED WITH105# AIR PRESSURE ACCORDING TO WEIGHT AND MICHELINS CHARTS.TIRES WERE ALWAYS COVERED WHEN NOT TRAVELING (TO PROTECT FROM UVRAYS,)THEY HAD TIRE MONITOR SYSTEM THAT SHOWED NORMAL PRESSURE AND TEMP.TIRES ARE MICHELIN 275/80R22.5 X LINE ENERGY 16 PLY H RATING WITH DATE CODE OF 3316.MICHELIN REP (ALVIN) TELLS ME THEY HAVE HAD SEVERAL THAT HAVE HAD BLOWOUTS.RODA SERVICE HAD TO PUT ON A COOPER 295/75R22.5 TIRE AS NO MICHELINS WERE AVAIL.NOW I'M OUT $900.00 FOR A BLOWOUT ON A MICHELIN 4 YEAR OLD TIRE

NHTSA ID
11373104
Incident
Nov 2, 2020
Mileage
23,000 mi

Manufacturer communications

A bulletin sent by a manufacturer to its dealers. Not a recall, and repairs are not necessarily free.

MCD-009

EXTERIOR LIGHTING

Stopped using the lights we had been using due to expense. Replaced with these, but these new lights have to be wired in instead of just clicking in. These are the instructions to wire in.

CSA-036

ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING

Faulty DEF sensors that due to shortage were not replaced. Instead engine software was temporarily modified to account for continued operation with a faulty sensor until replacement sensors were available. This campaign will install an engine control module calibration as well as confirm and/or install a new DEF header.

CSA-11

TIRES; WHEELS

Tiffin Motorhomes was notified by Daimler Trucks North America on behalf of Freightliner Custom Chassis Corporation of a defect that exists on specific model year 2017 - 2022 Freightliner Custom Chassis X-Line chassis manufactured February 20, 2017 through November 18, 2021 that are equipped with a valve stem extension and stabilizer configured with a specific tire valve stem and wheel combination. Tiffin Motorhomes built motorhomes on these specific Freightliner chassis between April, 2017 through December 6, 2021. Certain chassis may have been built with the tire valve stem extension for the inner wheel contacting the outer wheel rim opening, potentially damaging the valve stem resulting in a loss of air pressure in the inner tire. A loss of air pressure in the inner tire on a motorhome with a single drive axle may overload the outer tire and increase the risk of a crash.

CSA-009

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

FCCC Motorhome Chassis Rear PDM’s FL-856

CSA-004

FUEL SYSTEM, DIESEL

Customer Service Advisory for Cummins Recall #21E032 and Freightliner Recall #21V-326 for High Pressure Fuel Rail - Freightliner chassis units built on by Tiffin.

Letter to dealer

EQUIPMENT:OTHER:OWNERS/SERVICE/OTHER MANUAL

This was a letter to our dealers we sent out when we first heard of the Kidde fire extinguisher recall, even though it was still unofficial. We knew our coaches on the dealers' lots contained Kidde and could not be sold unreplaced.

Manufacturers file copies of the bulletins they send to dealers with NHTSA. These often describe diagnostic or repair procedures for a known condition. They are not recalls: repairs described in a bulletin are usually only free if the vehicle is still under warranty or the manufacturer has extended coverage.

Compare model years

Complaint and recall counts across every year of this model

Tiffin Phaeton by model year
YearComplaintsRecallsInvestigationsIssue Index
2027010
2026010
2025110
2024010
2023050
2022690
2021370
2020230
2019340
2018350
2017Viewing120
2016110
2015230
2014320
2013020
2012270
20114120
2010391
2009181
2008691
2007170
2006010
2005151
2004150
2003230
2002030
2001130
2000020

Higher-selling and older vehicles accumulate more reports. Counts are not failure rates and are not directly comparable between vehicles that sold in very different numbers. Older model years have had longer for reports to accumulate.